Share your postage stamp BISECTS - on cover on piece

[Global Admin]

Unfortunately I cannot enlarge the picture as I just bought it off an auction site for £25. I have not received the stamp yet.

Why do many here seem to have this manic fetish to load up fuzzy pix of stuff they have never seen, and ask detailed questions about possible issues on it - IMPOSSIBLE to answer off blurry little pix?

ebay photos are generally total cr*p as this was, and you have no idea of reverse condition.

The member photos above show the size and clarity you MUST post to ask questions.

Why on earth not wait until you HAVE the stamp before asking questions??????

Does getting half baked answers a day ahead of the mail arriving achieve anything, except to waste everyone's time?

This is simply a useless size to ask questions about -

[Dani]

Glen,

I don't believe this was a waste of time because it gave me the opportunity, with the kind and swift advice of others, to get the order cancelled before I paid for the item. When I mentioned 'Just bought', I should have been more articulate and said 'just won and hadn't paid for yet'. And even if I had paid for the item, I could have received a refund before the item was sent.

Unfortunately not all members of this nice forum are affluent enough to buy, all the time, from established dealers or shops where if it says SG 13 then you can safely assume that it is SG 13. I, and I may presume others on this forum, in order to get our requirements, must sometimes take a chance with the internet auctions; and rely on the pictures they provide.

In regard to the picture, it was small and should have been larger so it could have been seen more clearly, unfortunately that option wasn't available. If it was, the large full stop would have been more prominent and I may have realised this before bidding.

If had posted this query without a picture, I am sure I would have received the 'why no picture' commentary. However, the picture is large enough to provide a context to my original post, about the value of a posthumous surcharge overprint that was not listed in Stanley Gibbons, which was answered impeccably.

Regards,

Dani

[Lundy]

I saw this cute little wrapper yesterday, it looks like genuine use of a bisect?

Anybody know more about when these were valid??



Lundy

[Expatyeoman]

To add to the original post; another Guernsey wartime bisect - King George photogravure 2d definitive.

[Expatyeoman]

Another Guernsey wartime bisect; King George 2d. Both the Royal and Block cypher watermarked papers were used (I haven't been able to conclusively tell which one this is!)

[Expatyeoman]

I posted these in my Smaller Channel Islands wiki but will add here for completeness on this thread.

Herm Island 1953 bisect, due to peak summer season stamp shortage. The circular cancel didn't quite 'tie' the stamp but fortunately the roller cancel (which is an offset of the UK 'blood donor' slogan cancel later applied) has done that.

[Expatyeoman]

1954 Herm Island bisect (again due to shortages).

[Expatyeoman]

1957 Herm island bisect.



Many of these, and the earlier ones, were philatelic (Major Wood was the tenant of Herm at the time) but postally used ones also exist.

[jeremy29]

Some Queensland philatelicaly inspired bisects that made it through the mails!

http://queensland2sideface.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/queenslan ... isual.html

Jeremy

[GYDAM]

This is a "home-grown" bisect - my father, the late Jim Harrison, would have created this cover, got my mother to do the "dirty work" with the addressing and the "explanation" and sent it to a friend in Hobart to mail back to Launceston.

Which ever way you look at it, its a fun piece.

[Greaden]

I posted this Somali Coast newspaper in the France and Colonies thread, but it is also an example of a bisect on cover:

[Global Admin]

Some Queensland philatelicaly inspired bisects that made it through the mails!

https://queensland2sideface.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/queenslan ... isual.html

Jeremy

Jeremy - you MUST add some images here. When that website vanishes - and they ALL do - there will be at least some records of it here.

Glen

[Global Admin]

Added this one here today for $A75, Stock 483EKL.

British Honduras 1891 2¢ Queen Victoria stamp Bisect on local cover! Just $A75

Cool looking item, paying 3¢ rate, on Phoenix Auctions lot card that arrived in an estate with an Estimate $100 as you can see – no idea what it was invoiced for, after Buyer Fees and add-ons etc.

1891 2¢ Surcharge Bisect in pair with normal on local cover, Scott 28a, SG #37a, Cat £110 = $A200. WHEN did you ever see one of these offered locally??!!

Correct cds of “BELIZE – MY 12 – 91” and stamp and bisect tied by the usual “O” dumb numeral obliterator used on these. Ted Proud Type 03 cancel.

https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00095455/00001/93j

My offer is WAY under half what these go for -

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRITISH-HONDURAS-1891-2c-BISECT- ... 2123659004 - $A210 plus 10% GST

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1890s-British-Honduras-Wrapper-c ... 1591208315 - $A240 posted plus GST

https://www.zeboose.com/british-honduras-1888-used-2c1d-carmine-single-with-bisect/p4258 - 60 quid or $A110 off cover -

[Global Admin]

I found these at a small fair a couple of weeks ago, and am not sure if they even count as bisects. What do you think?

When I first saw them I thought they were the two halves of a single stamp but a closer look shows that they are from two different stamps. Still something a little different, and not surcharged by the PO.

What would a halfpenny rate pay? Seems very weird.

[toomuchsteve]

Here is my contribution. I have no idea why anyone would want a "Farthing" stamp to up-rate this card but it does seem genuine. The reason it ended up in my collection is that I have a collection of Penny Farthing GB Stationery cards and similar pre-UPU pre 1st April 1879 International postcard rates. This is a last page in the exhibit type item.

Lovely item. Thanks for sharing. I, in fact, do collect farthing stamps and wonder if this item might ever come up for sale?

[OldDuffer1]

I have no idea if Bisects were officially allowed during the Allied Occupation of Germany period but here are a couple, currently on Delcampe, which were obviously "tolerated".

TRIZONE Mi925

TRIZONE Mi951

Anyone have more information on their "legality"?

[OldDuffer1]

Here is an example where a bisect- albeit joined up with another one- was not tolerated!



The current letter rate was 20Pf but for reasons too complicated to go into here* two different 20Pf stamps were issued at roughly the same time.


*see https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68950&p=4448073#p4448073 for the reasons.

[banknoteguy]

One from the United States dated 1925:

[smclu001]

Acquired this piece in a job lot of British India Covers - India SG 45 - 45a. I have never seen a bisect used outside of the India P.O. in Strait Settlements. My first question would be are these stamps tied to the part cover ( I have my doubts ) secondly if the postmark can be identified if possible.

Any assistance will be appreciated.

[HalifaxRob]

Here's a Canadian bisect I discovered in an old folder of my father's. The folder includes several postcards to Miss Edith Blackwell, in Holland, Manitoba, from a friend in Treherne, Manitoba, about 10 km. down the road.

They are dated 1908. Several use the contemporary 1¢ Quebec Tercentenary green stamp, the required postage. One uses the 2¢ Quebec Tercentenary stamp cut in half. I don't know if this was an authorized use, or just done out of desperation, but the card was postmarked and sent.

Since these were both small places on a back road of Manitoba, perhaps the local postmaster faced a shortage of 1¢ stamps and improvised. There is a larger area of gum residue on the card below the stamp and postmark, but doesn't conform to any stamp size of the period.

[60366]

Registered cover mailed Prosenjakovci (Slovenia/Yugoslavia) 12.2.1921 to Henry Hechler, Halifax Nova Scotia. Hechler was a renowned soldier and stamp dealer in N.S. Rated at 100 paras with 2 x40p and 15p issues and a bisected 10p stamp.

[Catweazle]

Bisect or bisected?

British Honduras bisect cover addressed to Belize

Obviously everybody knew everybody in those days. There is no way in hell that cover would find its way successfully to its destination today!

Has anyone tried to do this with their more recent, modern mail? Assuming it would still work. Saw a modern decimal cover for sale in a recent Phoenix Auction but cannot for the life of me find it to post here again. Perhaps it is now buried deep inside the archives somewhere.

[laitinenp]

The Danish West Indies post office had to allow 4 cents stamps to be bisected on 1903.

There are lots of philatelically motivated covers in the market, but you can not find one cancelled in St. Jan. One cover exists according to Engström handbook.

Mr. Ken Toftsø has created a great website analyzing and describing thoroughly all the aspects on this interesting topic [ https://bisected-dwi.dk/ ].

[Pound_pe]

I found this old French cover ,from
Le Havre to Strasbourg .

The shape of the stamp looks unusual.

The upper part is cut diagonally .

Could it be a bisect on cover ?

[The Pom]

No. It's just a damaged stamp.

[Global Admin]

VERY heavily creased as well.

[Pound_pe]

Thank you for your responses.
It looked me strange thath's why I tough it could be a bisect,but as you've said it was probably damaged when it was glued to the cover.

[kuikka]

A bisect should have been cut such a way that both halves could be used (that means roughly in half). I would have hard time to think that the other "half" of this stamp could be used for postage.

[Global Admin]

A small part missing from a 20c stamp on cover, paying the normal 20c rate, does ***NOT*** make it a bisect.

Glen

[kuikka]

Sorry if my post was not clear enough, but that was exactly what I tried to say.

[andy66]

Clearly not a bisect but...sometimes these kind of documents can be examples of fraud, that is partially canceled stamps reused fraudulently as mint ones. These kind of documents are extremely interesting when taxed, but this one unfortunately was not the case
Andrea

[Number-O-Ne]

sometimes these kind of documents can be examples of fraud, that is partially canceled stamps reused fraudulently as mint ones.

Andrea

That's the reason bisected stamps were not officially allowed in majority of the cases. It was possible to cut out the part with postmark and reuse the clean half.

[andy66]

sometimes these kind of documents can be examples of fraud, that is partially canceled stamps reused fraudulently as mint ones.

Andrea

That's the reason bisected stamps were not officially allowed in majority of the cases. It was possible to cut out the part with postmark and reuse the clean half.

In Italy, where there is an obsession with tax dodging (and with reason ), it was also ruled how much could be the missing part of a stamp to avoid taxation: 1\8th

Andrea

[admin]

GERMANY demanded all the high value Defins circa 1900s get cancelled on BOTH sides to stop this happening.