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Re: Discuss and share the Stamps and Currency of the French Pacific region

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Kiritimati (previously known as the Christmas Island in the Pacific Ocean) is one of the Marshall Islands (Republic of Kiribati).

This beautiful cover, featured on Roland-klinger.de, complete with a Central Pacific Coconut Plantations Ltd., cinderella (?) looks to have travelled from there to Papeete, then onwards to Paris.
November 1919 Christmas Island (Pacific) Cover from Coconut Plantations to France via Tahiti
November 1919 Christmas Island (Pacific) Cover from Coconut Plantations to France via Tahiti
Do you know what the routing may have been after it left Tahiti?

Was the Coconut Plantations stamp actually used for postage, or is it more of a cinderella?
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Thanks Catweazle, a nice cover!

I think the Christmas Island Cocoanut Plantations Ltd stamps can be correctly regarded as local stamps. The 5c stamps, and later the 10c stamps, were used to pay for postage to French Polynesia (as with your example) or more rarely to New Zealand, whence internationally recognised postage was paid with relevant stamps. Melbourne dealer/auctioneer Charles Leski used to have an extensive group of these covers some of which he occasionally included in his auctions. I don't know if that is still happening.

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Following my recent post showing an expensive cover with Wé, Lifou, Loyalty Islands datestamp, on eBay,
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=199
here is a much more recent Wé cover which I have acquired. The datestamp no longer says "Loyalty Islands" but simply "New Caledonia".

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datestamp, 13 Jun 1991
Airmail cover to New Zealand
Addressee in well-known NZ philatelist William Carson
Franking:
1989 76f Fraternity: Bicentenary of French Revolution,
with attached PhilexFrance89 label
[Yv PA262; SG 862; Sc 615; Mi 854]


A map of Lifou, showing the location of , is map 21 in my "mosaic map" of New Caledonia, at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=187


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A recent post shows a 1969 cover from Pont des Français, New Caledonia, and some related geographical/social information:
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=198


Here is a 1964 cover from the same location:

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Pont des Français datestamps, 28 Dec 1964
Cover to New Zealand
Franking:
1959 26f Fluorescent coral species
[Yv 294; SG 350; Sc 310; Mi 367]
1959 1f Zebra Lionfish, Dendrochirus zebra
[Yv 291; SG 344; Sc 307; Mi 364]
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Contrasting these Pont des Français datestamps with those on the 1969 cover,
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=198
the 1969 datestamps have a dot separating each of the five words
Pont des Français Nouvelle Calédonie
whereas no such separators are used in the 1964 datestamps,
and these also use the space-saving abbreviation Nelle
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The address is clearly by the same writer as the 1964 cover from Voh,
and the 1969 cover from Pont des Fraçais, shown in recent posts.
As for those covers, it is natural to conjecture that this is a "tourist" covers,
self-addressed and sent while the sender was visiting New Caledonia.
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Re: Discuss and share the Stamps and Currency of the French Pacific region

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Catweazle wrote: 09 Jun 2024 23:31 Kiritimati (previously known as the Christmas Island in the Pacific Ocean) is one of the Marshall Islands (Republic of Kiribati).
I am not aware of this merger of Pacific nations. When did this occur?
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Kainnikanada wrote: 10 Jun 2024 15:01
Catweazle wrote: 09 Jun 2024 23:31 Kiritimati (previously known as the Christmas Island in the Pacific Ocean) is one of the Marshall Islands (Republic of Kiribati).
I am not aware of this merger of Pacific nations. When did this occur?
Well, I don't think they were ever French, if that's what you mean. But I posted it here because of the routing being possibly 'French' per se, in terms of the shipping.
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Ben,

Please inspect this map then review your statement I quoted.
Marshall Islands.jpg
Here's a clue:
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Some nice covers RogerE.
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RogerE wrote: 10 Jun 2024 13:43 The datestamp no longer says "Loyalty Islands" but simply "New Caledonia".
I see that the stamps of New Caledonia no longer include "et Dependances". Have the Loyalty Islands been subsumed by New Caledonia? On one map you posted they are now labelled as 'provinces'.
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Oh yes, I see - you are quite right. Kiribati is very different to the Marshall Islands! :oops: :lol:

My understanding is that today the Loyalty Islands off the Eastern coast of New Caledonia are a province of New Caledonia that may have different provincial governments as such but are still a part of New Caledonia and thus the French territory.

This map from Wikipedia shows the different communes within the three main provinces:
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Thanks kainnikanada.


I showed the Loyalty Islands in the mosaic maps at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=187


Let's learn some more about the Loyalty Islands/Îles Loyauté.
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More about the Loyalty Islands, supplementing details included at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=187
and sourced from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty_Islands_Province

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Re: Discuss and share the Stamps and Currency of the French Pacific region

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A little more general context for the Loyalty Islands within New Caledonia:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Caledonia#History


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Footnote: Although motivated by a recent post by kainnikanada, I have not found explicit answers for the following questions: (1) Which territories were defined to be Dependencies of New Caledonia? (2) Are they still so categorised? (3) When did the Loyalty Islands become one of New Caledonia's three Provinces?
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Another follow-up to the recent post by kainnikanada:

When did New Caledonia drop the "et Dépendances" from its stamps?
Here are my results based on the Colnect New Caledonia chronological list of stamps.
It appears to have happened from May 1988.
The Dependancies are still explicitly included in this April 1988 issue:
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New Caledonia and Dependancies, 1988
300f 125th anniversary of Red Cross/Red Crescent
Issue date: 27 Apr 1988
[Yv 555; SG 829; Sc 575; Mi 825]
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This was followed in May 1988 by two medicinal plant stamps, without "et Dépendances":
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New Caledonia, 1988
28f Ochrosia elliptica var. elliptica (*)
Issue date: 18 May 1988
[Yv 556; SG 830; Sc 578; Mi 826]
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New Caledonia, 1988
64f Rauvolfia sevenetii (**) (airmail rate)
Issue date: 18 May 1988
[Yv PA258; SG 831; Sc 579; Mi 827]
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It appears that all subsequent stamp issues omit "et Dépendances" from the name.


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Footnotes on the medicinal stamp subjects
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Wikipedia (wiki) wrote:Ochrosia elliptica, commonly known as northern ochrosia, bloodhorn, scarlet wedge-apple, or simply ochrosia, is a tree in the dogbane family Apocynaceae native to north-eastern Australia and the southwest Pacific.
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Wikipedia wrote:Rauvolfia (sometimes spelled Rauwolfia) is a genus of evergreen trees and shrubs, commonly known as devil peppers, in the family Apocynaceae. The genus is named to honor Leonhard Rauwolf. The genus can mainly be found in tropical regions of Africa, Asia, Latin America, and various oceanic islands.
[See species #63 in the list of species
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Following recent discussion in this thread on the Provinces of New Caledonia, here is a relevant stamp set which I have added to my collection:

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New Caledonia, 1991
45f x3 se tenant strip
Province Nord, Province des Îles, Province Sud
[Yv 613A; SG 914-916; Sc 648a; Mi 903-905]
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The separate stamps also exist in a format with the provincial flag shown on an attached label.
Here are the relevant images shown in the Colnect New Caledonia chronological stamp catalogue.

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New Caledonia, 1991
45f Northern Province, with flag label
[Yv 611; SG 914; Sc 646; Mi 903]
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New Caledonia, 1991
45f Islands Province, with flag label
[Yv 612; SG 915; Sc 647; Mi 904]
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New Caledonia, 1991
45f Southern Province, with flag label
[Yv 613; SG 916; Sc 648; Mi 905]
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I must say that the Loyalty Islands are poorly represented on the second stamp of the set.
The southeastern island Maré barely fits into the stamp image, and is partly overlaid by text.
Also part of Île des Pins/Island of Pines at the southeastern end of the Southern Province is cut off.
Overall, the three maps on these stamps are poorly designed, and scarcely informative.
The attached labels are of better artistic quality than the stamps. :o


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Regarding the truncated map representations.

Since they can not be used to scale distances, lacking an appropriate scale bar, I would have thought artistic license would have enabled the designer to nominally shift the islands toward the center of the stamp. This would have maintained the the structural integrity/design/intent of the stamp without misrepresenting the peripheral islands.

Just wonder if this is seen on all stamps or perhaps only on marginal (edge of a sheet) examples?
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Thanks, Roger. It is interesting to notice the artwork both in the lower left corner of each stamp and in the gutters. You can see the obvious French influence in Province Sud.

The other two designs mimic that of the Kanak flag. Could it be a totem, or else a traditional carving atop important village buildings?
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Thank you kainnikanada and catweazle for your contributions. Perhaps time will tell, and I will be able to be answer definitively the comments about the three province map stamps ...

In the meantime I have made some progress on the Kanak flag:

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Credit: Harry West Flags, Sydney
Kanak Flag
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What is the Flèche faîtière?
Google Translate offers: flèche faîtièreridge arrow
Wikipedia tells us:
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Symbolism
The flèche faîtière is wood sculpture that represents the spirit of Kanak culture, which resembles a small totem pole. As it represented the power of the clan Chiefs of Kanaks over their subjects, it was adopted as part of the flag of the Kanaks by the organization leading the independent movement in New Caledonia. The Grand Huts also known as grande case (chief's hut) are decorated with a flèche faîtière as a finial, representing the ancestral spirits, symbolic of transition between the world of the dead and the world of the living.

The arrow or the spear normally has a needle at the end to insert threaded shells from bottom to top; one of the shells contains arrangements to ensure protection of the house and the country. During wars enemies attacked this symbolic finial. After the death of a Kanak chief, over whose Great House the flèche faîtière is fixed, it is removed and his family takes it to their home. Though it was allowed to be used again as a sign of respect, it is normally kept at burial grounds of noted citizens or at the mounds of abandoned grand houses.
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New Caledonia: A philatelic celebration of the traditional flèche faîtière:

New Caledonia, 2007
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110f Flèche faîtière
[Yv 1033; SG 1430; Mi 1452]
eBay item 313244214165
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The silhouette of a flèche faîtière on the Kanak flag, and the flags of the Northern Province and Islands Province, has also been a thematic element numerous times on the stamps of New Caledonia.
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New Caledonia, 1966
Second South Pacific Games, Noumea, Dec 1966
Emblem of Games includes a flèche faîtière
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8f Emblem of the Second South Pacific Games
[Yv 328; SG 400; Sc 344; Mi 420]
eBay item 354751730827
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17f High jumping
[Yv 332; SG 419; Sc 348; Mi 428]
eBay item 313244214042
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Second South Pacific Games, Noumea, Dec 1966
177f Deluxe sheetlet, with central label featuring Emblem of Games
[Yv 335; SG 422; Sc 351; 431]
Item added to my collection
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Some more recent appearances of a flèche faîtière:
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New Caledonia, 1986
Emblem of Lions Club of Nouméa
surmounted by a flèche faîtière
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350f Lions Club of Nouméa
[Yv 528; SG 798; Sc 550; Mi 794]
eBay item 295322639941
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New Caledonia, 1995
IUFM = Institut Universitaire de Formation des Maîtres
Emblem with flèche faîtière
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100f University Teacher Training Institute
[Yv 683; SG 1033; Sc 710; Mi 1034]
eBay item 281634737407
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This Wiki is relevant:
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Some further brief comments about flèche faîtière:

La flèche usually refers to an arrow. Note the cognate English word fletcher, a maker of arrows. The word has particularly survived as an English surname.
fletcher (n.) "arrow-maker," early 14c. (as a surname attested from 1203), from Old French flechier "maker of arrows," from fleche "arrow," which is probably from Frankish...
fletch (v.) "fit feathers to" (an arrow), 1650s, variant of fledge (v.) in sense "fit (an arrow) with feathers", altered by influence of fletcher.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/fletcher


La faîte is the ridge of a roof.


Google produces many images in response to a search for flèche faîtière. Here is a sampling:

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The 1991 New Caledonia set of three map stamps for the three provinces was discussed recently. Recall the se tenant set shown earlier:
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https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&hilit=French+Pacific&start=214


I have now acquired the set in gutter pairs, with the central labels depicting the provincial flags:

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New Caledonia, 1991
Provincial maps in gutter pairs with
central labels depicting provincial flags.
[Yv 611-613; SG 914-916; Sc 646-648; Mi 903-905]
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We can now observe some more of the cropping of islands close to the margins of these stamp images:
Kainnikanada wrote: 13 Jun 2024 06:06 Regarding the truncated map representations.

Since they can not be used to scale distances, lacking an appropriate scale bar, I would have thought artistic license would have enabled the designer to nominally shift the islands toward the center of the stamp. This would have maintained the the structural integrity/design/intent of the stamp without misrepresenting the peripheral islands.

Just wonder if this is seen on all stamps or perhaps only on marginal (edge of a sheet) examples?
The earlier mosaic map posts of New Caledonia in this thread show us details of islands that are truncated at the margins of the provincial map stamps.


Map 1 includes Île d'Art in the Bélep Islands at the northwest extremity of the Northern Province. Oddly, the Île d'Art is better represented in the map stamp for the Islands Province than in the Northern Province map stamp!
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=184


Maps 17 & 18 include Île des Pins/Isle of Pines at the southeast extremity of the Southern Province. Oddly, the Île des Pins is better represented in the map stamp for the Northern Province than in the Southern Province map stamp! Do we see slightly more of Île des Pins in the Southern Province stamp to the left of the gutter than in its companion on the right of the gutter? In the se tenant triple, the Île des Pins is fully shown in the Southern Province map stamp — this bears out the difference noted by kainnikanada.
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=186


Map 20 shows Maré at the southeast extremity of the Islands Province. Oddly, Maré is better represented in the map stamp for the Southern Province than in the Islands Province map stamp!
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=187


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The controversial legislation passed by the French Parliament resulting in the May protest demonstrations and rioting in New Caledonia has finally been set aside. The following news was reported on Thursday, 13 Jun 2024, by the Guardian:

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Re. the Loyalty Islands, Stanley Gibbons – sorry, Baldwin's now, yes? :lol: – currently has this listed in stock on their website, so including it here FYI and the purposes of our discussion. You can buy it yourself if you happen to have a spare £475...

Link is here: https://www.stanleygibbons.com/products/gb-1886-sg172-cover-london-lifu-loyalty-islands
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Dated August 18, 1886 and addressed to a missionary Rev. J Sleigh (1818–1901) on Lifou (where I almost spent seven months once, but that's another story for another day. Silly me for not taking up that position!) Sleigh was there from 1862-87 before retiring in 1889. Sleigh is described as "a cultured man" who although "no longer young... was always remembered afterwards for his great goodness" (Georges Delbos, "The Catholic Church in New Caledonia: A Centry and A Half of History" [Editions Deselée, Paris, 1993], p. 112).

Fun fact: Sleigh's son shares my birthday.

The cover is described as:
Stanley Gibbons wrote:1886 Overseas Mail. Very fine cover to Rev J Sleigh, Lifu, Loyalty Islands, New Caledonia, South Pacific. Prepaid by four 1d Lilac (Die II, SG172) neatly tied by London "SE/4" duplexes for AU.19.1886. Backstamped by Marseille and New Caledonia transit datestamps. A rare destination item, Lifu is the principal island of the Loyalty Islands archipelago sitting just to the east of the French territory of New Caledonia.

Interesting to note the different spelling of Lifou as "Lifu". Was this how the English spelt what they thought they heard the French saying?
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Edit: oh the stupid website chucked a hissy fit and duplicated my post. Sorry, folks!
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With this post I return to showing regional postmarks of New Caledonia.
From my collection, here is a local cover from La Foa:

Central New Caledonia
La Foa
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Local cover, La Foa to Nouméa
La Foa date stamps, 5 Jul 1943
Correspondence to pharmacy in Nouméa
Cover has been folded horizontally and vertically, not affecting stamps
Franking: 1928 65c definitive: Traditional chief's hut
[Yv 151; SG 154; Sc 151; Mi 150]
1933 35c definitive: Traditional chief's hut
[Yv 147A; SG 147; Sc 145; Mi 145]
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Back of cover, showing discolouration from sealing gum
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Censor handstamp, censor 8
Censure Alliée, Nouvelle Calédonie


Where is La Foa?
La Foa is near the central west coast of Grande Terre, New Caledonia.
It is near the northern boundary of the Southern Province.
Its current population is over 3,500 with an ethnic composition of
about one third Kanak, one third European, and one third others.
It can be seen on the mosaic map 11 of New Caledonia, at

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I seem to recall driving through La Foa. Aren't there farming communities around there, if memory serves me right?

A delightful cover, Roger. I especially like these internal domestic uses.
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Continuing with regional postmarks of New Caledonia.
From my collection, here is a cover from Païta:

Southern New Caledonia
Païta
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Illustrated airmail cover: Païta, New Caledonia to Sens, France
Païta date stamps, 6 Aug 1976
(One datestamp over the front illustration)
Franking:
1974 3f Ovula ovum — Common Egg Cowry
[Yv PA150; SG 521; Sc C111; Mi 547]
1974 28f 18th century French sailor
[Yv PA156; SG 541; Sc C116; Mi 553]
Dealer(?) has pencilled (slightly incorrect) Yvert et Tellier catalogue numbers!
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Back of cover, Port de plaisance
Do you recall seeing another such cover? One was shown in this thread at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?p=11621296#p11621296


Where is Païta?
Païta, on Highway RT1, about 20km northwest of Nouméa
Current population: almost 25,000
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Wikipedia wrote:Païta (French pronunciation: [pajta]) is a commune
in the suburbs of Nouméa in the South Province of New Caledonia
Païta


In this thread, the mosaic maps 13, 14, and especially 15, show Païta, at
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Here, from my collection, is an earlier "on piece" usage from Païta:

New Caledonia, 1948
Païta
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Airmail piece, cutout
Two strikes: Païta datestamp, 21 Oct 1948
Double ring, inner ring of dashes
Abbreviation "NELLE" with short dash under second L
Franking 1928 40c Traditional chief's hut
[Yv 148, SG 148, Sc 146, Mi 146]
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For those interested in airmail etiquettes, this one has a dot inside A of "AIR".


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Another regional datestamp item from New Caledonia, this time a cover from La Dumbéa — like Païta, also neighbouring Nouméa. This is an item from my collection.


Let's begin with the back of the cover, where the clearest datestamp is seen :o
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New Caledonia, 1954
La Dumbéa
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Back of cover, with sender's address in La Dumbéa
Datestamp of La Dumbéa, 18 Feb 1954
Single ring, abbreviation NLLE, all three letters underlined
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Forwarding datestamp of Nouméa, 18 Feb 1954
Single ring, NOUVELLE in full
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Front of cover, to Seattle, USA
Five strikes of La Dumbéa datestamp, 18 Feb 1954
Franking: 1942 10c & 40c Kagu/Cagou definitives
[ Yv 231, 234; SG 268, 271; Sc 253, 256; Mi 273, 276]
1948 50c & 1f Scenic definitives
[Yv 262, 265; SG 309, 312; Sc 279, 282; Mi 329, 332]
1953 2f Mgr Douarre
[Yv 281; SG 332; Sc 297; Mi 352]
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Where is La Dumbéa?
[La] Dumbéa is about 10km north of Nouméa, on Highway RT1. It is approximately midway between Nouméa and Païta.
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Dumbéa can be seen on the mosaic maps 13, 14, 15 of New Caledonia's Southern Province in this thread, at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=186
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Dumbéa (French pronunciation: [dœ̃bea], Ndrumbea: [ɳɖùmbea]) is a commune in the suburbs of Nouméa in the South Province of New Caledonia, an overseas territory of France in the Pacific Ocean. The population of the commune was 35,873 according to the 2019 census. From 1904 to 1940 the town was linked to Nouméa by the Nouméa-Païta railway.
Dumbéa


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In its day, the Nouméa-Païta railway (1904-1940) served commuters in Païta and Dumbéa travelling to Nouméa.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noum%C3%A9a-Pa%C3%AFta_railway
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New Caledonia, 2004
155f Le Rail Calédonien
1905 Decauville C/N 637 4-6-0 steam locomotive
Background shows bridge over Dumbéa River
[Yv 913; SG 1319; Sc 941; Mi 1329]
eBay item 375020518584
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New Caledonia, 1971
10f Stamp Day, Travelling Post Office, Dumbéa Line
[Yv 372; SG 484; Sc 388; Mi 499]
eBay item 364938329397
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New Caledonia, 2005
745f Le Rail Calédonien
Corpet et Louvet 0-6-0Ts steam locomotive
Background shows train emerging from Tonghué Tunnel
[Yv 944; SG 1348; Sc 962; Mi 1362]
eBay item 176368841430
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A New Caledonia cover with a Nouméa variant datestamp, from my collection:

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Registered airmail philatelic business cover to USA
from OPT = Office des Postes et Télécommunications
de la Nouvelle Calédonie et Dépendances
Probably contained mint stamps for a collector
Date stamp: Nouméa Sud, 21 May 1969
Franking:
1969 100f Concorde
[Yv PA103; SG 466; Sc C63; Mi 465]
1968 25f 2nd Calédonian Safari
[Yv 355; SG 464; Sc 371; Mi 463]
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Another New Caledonia datestamp on cover, from my collection:

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New Caledonia, 1951
Airmail cover to USA
Circular datestamp: Tontouta Aeroport, 16 Jul 1951
Franking:
1942 5f Kagu/Cagou, yellow
[Yv 241; SG 278; Sc 263; Mi 283]
1948 6f Scenic definitive, Towers of Notre Dame
[Yv 272; SG 319; Sc 289; Mi 339]
_______________
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La Tontouta International Airport
is on the west coast of Grande Terre
on Highway RT1, about 50km northwest of Nouméa
— see mosaic map 13:
La Tontouta Airport
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Another New Caledonia local cover from my collection:

New Caledonia, 1975
Local cover from Kuto
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New Caledonia local cover, airmail
Kuto to Nouméa
Datestamp: Kuto, 2 Oct 1975
Single franking
1975 20f Nature conservation, stop bush fires
[Yv 391; SG 547; Sc 407; Mi 559]
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Kuto is a beach location on the southwest coast of Île des Pins.
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Acknowledgement: Google maps
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Kuto is on Map 18 of the mosaic map at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=186
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Kuto Beach
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In 1986 New Caledonia issued four regional landscapes stamps. I have these four stamps on maxicards.

The first of these maxicards shows Kanuméra Bay, a beautiful location adjacent to Kuto on the southwest coast of Île des Pins (see the previous post).
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New Caledonia, 1986
Maxicard for 50f Kanuméra Bay
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1986 50f Kanuméra Bay
Maxicard with first day map cancellation
Nouméa R.P. [GPO], 26 Mar 1986
[Yv 514; SG 782; Sc 537; Mi 777]
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Kanuméra Bay, Île des Pins, is shown on Map 18 of the mosaic maps at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=186
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Continuing with the New Caledonia regional landscapes stamps of 1986.

New Caledonia, 1986
Maxicard for 55f Village in the Interior
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1986 55f Village in the Interior
(unspecified location, probably in central Grande Terre)
Maxicard with first day map cancellation
Nouméa R.P. [GPO], 26 Mar 1986
[Yv 515; SG 783; Sc 538; Mi 778]
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Maxicard for 40f West coast landscape
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1986 40f West coast landscape, cattle farm
(unspecified location, probably in central Grande Terre)
Maxicard with first day map cancellation
Nouméa R.P. [GPO], 29 Oct 1986
[Yv 525; SG 795; Sc 547; Mi 791]
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Maxicard for 76f Southern landscape
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1986 76f Southern landscape
(unspecified location, probably not far from Nouméa)
Maxicard with first day map cancellation
Nouméa R.P. [GPO], 29 Oct 1986
[Yv 526; SG 796; Sc 548; Mi 792]
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My next New Caledonia cover is from Nouméa, but the datestamp is not the usual Nouméa R.P.

New Caledonia, 1991
Vallée des Colons
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Illustrated airmail cover to Vanuatu, philatelic business
Franked with 58f meter NR 001 label
with Nouméa datestamp Vallée des Colons, 17 Sep 1991
Cover illustration: Kanuméra Bay (see Kanuméra Bay

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Vallée des Colons district of Nouméa
This district is immediately east of Nouméa's Centre Ville [CBD]
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Districts of Nouméa
According to the population census, the Vallée des Colons district had 9,372 inhabitants in 2009, and 9,692 inhabitants in 2014. It is therefore the most populated in Nouméa 7. The Kanak name is Koloko.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartiers_de_Noum%C3%A9a
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Speaking of Nouméa
New Caledonia 2024 Nouméa 170th Anniversary Stamp, issued 26 June 2024
New Caledonia 2024 Nouméa 170th Anniversary Stamp, issued 26 June 2024
The previous issue depicting the Kagu - it appears that the issue has been postponed to be released later in the year.
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Thank you DJCMH for keeping us informed about new stamp issues for New Caledonia

The latest new issue, celebrating the 170th anniversary of Nouméa, has an interesting face value:

170 [years] X 2 = 340 [francs]


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Recently I showed this 1951 New Caledonia cover datestamped at Tontouta Airport. Now I show a cover with clearer datestamps showing that the wording is Tontouta Aerodrome rather than "Tountouta Aeroport".
RogerE wrote: 24 Jun 2024 01:02 Another New Caledonia datestamp on cover, from my collection:

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New Caledonia, 1951
Airmail cover to USA
Circular datestamp: Tontouta Aeroport, 16 Jul 1951
Franking:
1942 5f Kagu/Cagou, yellow
[Yv 241; SG 278; Sc 263; Mi 283]
1948 6f Scenic definitive, Towers of Notre Dame
[Yv 272; SG 319; Sc 289; Mi 339]
_______________
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La Tontouta International Airport
is on the west coast of Grande Terre
on Highway RT1, about 50km northwest of Nouméa
— see mosaic map 13:
La Tontouta Airport
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I have added a more recent cover from Tontouta to my collection. It turns out that the datestamps on this cover are a little clearer than those on the 1951 cover, and allow me to correct my reading of the earlier datestamps.
New Caledonia, 1970
Tontouta Aerodrome
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Airmail cover to New Zealand
Datestamps Tontouta Aerodrome, 19 Jan 1970
Note the abbreviation N E L L E with four separated underlines
Franking: 1969 19f Judo, South Pacific Games
[Yv 361; SG 470; Sc 377; Mi 473]
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Another New Caledonia regional datestamp example, from my collection:

New Caledonia
Pouébo
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On-piece example
Double ring datestamp, Pouébo, 23 Oct 1948
Inner ring of dashes
Note abbreviation N E L L E with "LL" underlined
Franking:
1933 1f25 Bougainville & La Pérouse, green and red
[Yv 155A, SG 165, Sc 162, Mi 159]
Where is Puébo?
Puébo is in North Province, on the northeast coast of Grande Terre, on highway RPN3.
It can be seen on Map 3 of the mosaic map of New Caledonia, at
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Another regional New Caledonia datestamp from my collection.

New Caledonia, 1959
Poum
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1959 cover from New Caledonia to New Zealand
Addressed to well-known philatelist Ken McNaught [see notes below]
Datestamps: Poum, 30 Sep 1959
[Pencil note "PAM" for unclear "POUM"(?)]
Note abbreviation N E L L E with four separate underlines
Franking:
1958 7f Universal Declaration of Human Rights
[Yv 290, SG 343, Sc 306, Mi 363]
1959 3f Harlequin Tusk Wrasse — Lienardella fasciata
[Yv 292, SG 346, Sc 308, Mi 365]



Where is Poum?

See mosaic map 2, at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=184
Wikipedia wrote:Poum is a commune in the North Province of New Caledonia, an overseas territory of France in the Pacific Ocean. The small town of Poum (Latitude: 20° 13' 59 south, longitude: 164° 1' 23 east) is located in the far northwest, located on the southern part of Banare Bay, with Mouac Island just offshore. Aside from French, the native language of the Kanak inhabitants is nêlêmwa-nixumwak, an Austronesian language spoken by about 1,100 people. British fishermen came to the islands in 1855 seeking sea cucumbers, and settled and intermarried, and this is reflected in the last names of some clan members and on gravestones (e.g. Williams, Winchester). In the 1850s, a hundred Europeans lived on Mouac Island and John Henry Williams established a presence on Néba island.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poum


There are mineral deposits (notably copper) which have been exploited, but some associated financial problems have emerged.
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https://www.mindat.org/feature-2138967.html


Agricultural Scientist and Philatelist, Ken McNaught

Ken McNaught (1913-1999) was a well-known New Zealander distinguished for his work in Agricultural Science, and significant contributions in philately.
https://agresearch.recollect.co.nz/nodes/view/288
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Philatelic recollections
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p.122, The Kiwi, v.54, no.6, Nov 2005 [whole no.314]
http://www.nzsgb.org.uk/kiwi_cd/vol54/nov.pdf
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While doing some on-line searching for the information in the previous post I encountered a nice tourist-oriented map overlay on a sequence of New Caledonian views. Here is a screenshot for your enjoyment:

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https://au.newcaledonia.travel/
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Another regional datestamp from New Caledonia

New Caledonia, 1932
Thio
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Datestamp Thio, 16 Jan 1932
Double ring, inner ring of dashes
Note abbreviation NELLE with a single underline
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Stamp: 1928 75f Traditional chief's hut
[Yv 152, SG 156, Sc 153, Mi 152]
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Where is Thio?
Thio is on the east coast of Grande Terre, just south of the boundary between the Southern and Northern Provinces. It is at the end of Highway RP4. It can be seen on mosaic map 10 at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=185
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thio,_New_Caledonia
Wikipedia wrote:Thio is a commune in the South Province of New Caledonia ...
A novel Aerial tramway built by Adolf Bleichert & Co. company in 1906 existed
here at the start of the 20th century to facilitate loading ore ships offshore.
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There were numerous first flights to and from New Caledonia in the early 1940s.
Here is a cover for one of those first flights:

First Flight: Pan American Clipper
Nouméa to San Francisco
21 Jul 1940
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Special first flight cover, with green cachet
Route: Nouméa — Canton Is — Honolulu — San Francisco
Datestamp double ring Nouméa, 21 Jul 1940
Inner ring of dashes
Note abbreviation N E L L E with "LL" underlined.
Screenshot 2024-06-30 at 11.45.48 pm.png
Arrival backstamp San Francisco, 24 Jul 1940
(The flight crossed the International Dateline)
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Franking on cover:
1938 9f Seaplane, blue
[Yv PA32, SG 220, Sc C4, Mi 210]
1928 50c Traditional chieftain's hut, brown & violet
[Yv 150, SG 151, Sc 148, Mi 148]
1928 10f Bougainville & La Pérouse, brown & violet
[Yv 160, SG 177, Sc 174, Mi 166]
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New Caledonia local correspondence cover, from Bourail.

New Caledonia, 1967
Bourail
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Bourail to Nouméa
Datestamps Bourail, 28 Mar 1967
Single ring, no abbreviation of Nouvelle Calédonie
Franking: 1964 7f Ascidies polycarpa, Nouméa Aquarium
[Yv 322, SG 383, Sc 338, Mi 402]
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Where is Bourail?
Bourail is in the South Province of Grande Terre, on the west coast close to the boundary of South Province. It is on Highway RT1. See mosaic map 9 (also map 11) in the post
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=185
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourail
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Another New Caledonia regional cover, this one from Koné.

New Caledonia, 1964
Koné
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Airmail cover: Koné, New Caledonia to Waiwera, North Auckland, New Zealand
Datestamps Koné, 26 Aug 1964
Single ring, no abbreviation of Nouvelle Calédonie
Franking: 1962 5f Le rocher à la voile, Nouméa
[Yv 304, SG 348, Sc 320, Mi 380]
1964 7f Ascidies polycarpa, Nouméa Aquarium
[Yv 322, SG 383, Sc 338, Mi 402]
Apparently self-addressed by sender while touring in Grande Terre
Compare with the cover addressed by the same sender, shown at
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Where is Koné?
Koné is on Highway RT1 on the west coast of Grande Terre, in the Northern Province.
It can be seen on mosaic map 6, in the map post at
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=104460&start=184
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Koné is a commune in the North Province of New Caledonia, a special collectivity of France in the Pacific Ocean...
Politics and regional development
Koné is the seat of the government of the Northern Province, dominated since the Province was established by pro-Independence politicians. The aim has been to develop Koné and neighbouring towns into an economic growth pole, anchored by the large Koniambo project and nickel mine. The idea has been to give Kanak peoples job opportunities independent from France and the loyalist Southern Province. This 'VKP' zone [=Voh-Koné-Pouembout] is now established, with a marked increase in business activity, construction, and public facilities (library, cinema, swimming pool) since the mid 2000s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon%C3%A9,_New_Caledonia


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Cover from Koné to Port Vila, Vanuatu.

New Caledonia, 1991
Koné
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Koné, New Caledonia to Port Vila, Vanuatu
Philatelic business
Franked with counter meter label, 58f, Koné, 5 Sep 1991
(Is this a FRAMA meter label?)
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Cover from Koné to Florida.

New Caledonia, 1984
Koné
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Illustrated airmail cover to USA
Datestamps Koné, 9 Feb 1984
Vertical lines from sides of date slug
Franking:
1982 25f Splendid Pebble Crab, Etisus splendidus
[Yv 453, SG 668, Sc 470, Mi 681]
1983 2f Xanthostemon aurantiacum
[Yv 470, SG 695, Sc 484, Mi 708]
1984 5f & 20f Cone shells: Conus chenui, C. optimus
[Yv 481, 483; SG 722, 724; Sc 495, 497; Mi 728, 730]
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Illustrated back of this cover
Sender has Koné Post Office box
Personal correspondence — perhaps pen friend mail
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Re: Discuss and share the Stamps and Currency of the French Pacific region

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On the name "New Caledonia and Dependences", it was an official change in 1988 by this quote from the Wikipedia in French article "New Caledonia".

Linguistic note: the Wikipedia article in written in "historic present". History can be written in present or past tenses in French language. Here all the past tenses are mine to adapt to English speaking customs.
Toponyme:
After the take over by France in 1853 of all the islands that form today New Caledonia then the statute of colony in its own name after 1860, its official name was "Nouvelle-Calédonie et dépendances". The term "dépendances" refers to the Loyalty Islands, Bélep, of Pines and all the peripheral islets.

However, by simplicity, and because it was the most important isle, the name of Nouvelle-Calédonie, even of "Calédonie", was quickly used to indicate both the isle and the complete colony.

Whatever, the official name had been "Nouvelle-Calédonie et dépendances" until 1988. The last French law to use the expression was the Law of 17 July 1986 (Pons 1 Statute)* and the first to simply use "Nouvelle-Calédonie" for the whole overseas territory was the Law of 22 January 1988 (Pons 2 Statute)*.

Concerning the main isle all statutary and lawful text before 1999 call it "Nouvelle-Calédonie" or "Grande Terre" ("big ground"?). The Organic Law of 19 Mars 1999 on the New Caledonia special statute was the first official document to only use "Grande Terre" for the main isle.

*: During the 1980s the Kanak independence movement and the European local parties put their differences more and more openly, violently from the isle to Paris. Until 1986 socialist governments in Paris tried to find a new statute for New Caledonia, but the National Assembly switched to the right coalition in 1986 that put Jacques Chirac as Prime Minister, heavy hand Charles Pasqua at the Interior and Bernard Pons at the Overseas.

Pons 1 law tried to tight New Caledonia local government closer to the other French elected collectivities in order to limit the autonomy of the three or four potential provinces councils (that you discussed with the maps on stamps). After Chirac's many visits over there Pons 2 organised a more autonomous oversea territory... that the independendists refused because it wasn't full independence.

It ended in the tragic events at Ouvéa island in the middle of France Presidential Election (attack of a gendarmerie, gendarmes held hostage, refuse of inhabitants to help the special operation gendarmes, and finally an actual battle between an Army commando and the group of Kanaks in a cave two days before the 2nd turn of the national election with rumors of executions of surviving independentists at the cave afterwards).

Some think that event cost Chirac ballots enough to lose the election. New PM Michel Rocard put everything back on the table and he started the Matignon Accord process that established many political events to come until the 3rd referendum under President Macron, and other discussions you have on all the unofficial-yet-officially-used symbols of New Caledonia (flèche faîtière, two flags raised together - France tricolore and FNLKS one-, NC identity on Pacific Franc coins and notes, etc.).

For example on this consensual approach on "what flag?", I remember that French journalists were excited to see that rightwing PMs under Chirac or Sarkozy hadn't mind that the Kanak flag was raised next to France Tricolore in some town and provincial halls they visited... They didn't speak about it, didn't notice it, even if they stand many times facing them during Marseillaise playing.
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