Can you read this address? 1927 French cover

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Can you read this address? 1927 French cover

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I have in my possession a very tatty cover from 1927. It was posted in Nice, France but I am having difficulty deciphering
the Name of the Villa.

I'm trying to research this cover but I'm drawing a blank on the senders address.

Also can anyone make out what is on the seal. My first thoughts when viewing with the naked eye were that it might be Arabic having seen it as a scan I'm no longer sure.

This is my first attempt at researching something like this and must say I'm enjoying the experience as it's been quite exciting... Might open up a new branch in my collecting at this rate. Another query that I have is what is the blue cross, I've seen that on quite a few covers and always wondered what it signifies

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Villa Xoulces, Cimiez, Nice, France.

The Xoulces is a river in the Vosges region. Cimiez is an area of Nice (I used to live down the road in Villefranche many years ago :D )

The blue cross meant that the letter was sent by registered mail.

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Thanks, never thought of X. Now I just need to find some info on the place
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Wikipedia is your friend. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xoulces

No doubt you can find more on the Villa in Google, in the French language version if necessary. Here's one reference, in English:

"...M. Venizelos continued to occupy the Villa Xoulces, in the Boulevard de Cimiezt Nice, the home of M. and Mme. Zervudachi, whose daughter Kathleen married..."

N.B., the Xoulces River is only 5 miles long, no place for speedboat races. :roll:
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Doug
That snippet in English is just the kind of info I'm looking for.

I have tried both Google and Wiki but with no success.

Google is only returning results in French and my French is way too basic.

Wiki is only giving me info on the river and not the Villa Xoulces.

On another note I am having much more success with the front of the envelope :D
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Just Google "Villa Xoulces" - it is the second of 13,000 hits, and apparently comes from a [Google] book review.
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Just did a quick Google and I didn't find that much for Villa Xoulces (it was built at least before 1854 by a rich industrialist from the Vosges).

However if I was a betting man I would lay money on the sender of your cover (A.M.) being Abdul Medjid. Just google Abdulmecid II and you will have enough to read - there is even something on YouTube.

I think that is more interesting than information about the villa :D

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doug2222usa wrote:Just Google "Villa Xoulces" - it is the second of 13,000 hits, and apparently comes from a [Google] book review.
Now that just shows how Google decides what we get to see. I had already googled villa xoulces last night but there was nothing very promising and it was late. Today I googled "villa xoulces" and came up with 5 results and the usual mention about probable duplicates

"In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 5 already displayed"

There were 3 - our posts!

Quite some difference between 8 and 13000!!

Also apart from our posts nothing in English and nothing from Google books.

However 2 pdfs of old Swiss newspapers from 1924 gave me the possible (for me it's 100%) sender of the cover.

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Chris55 wrote:Just did a quick Google and I didn't find that much for Villa Xoulces (it was built at least before 1854 by a rich industrialist from the Vosges).

However if I was a betting man I would lay money on the sender of your cover (A.M.) being Abdul Medjid. Just google Abdulmecid II and you will have enough to read - there is even something on YouTube.

I think that is more interesting than information about the villa :D

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That ties in very well with what I have discovered on the front. Not had chance yet to follow up your information but I will at 1st opportunity. Once I've got it all I'll do a little write up on what has turned out to be an interesting little project. Thanks for the info.
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Hi,

can you show the front too ?
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Chris 55 any chance you could post the info from the newspapers tying A.M to the Villa? I have seen the PDFs but I don't read French at all well.

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rossi wrote:Hi,

can you show the front too ?
Rossi I will be doing, once I have the full story :wink:
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My last post disappeared when Stampoards went down on Thursday night so here it is again.

My French is very rusty after over 20 years but I will be able to give you the gist.

The first extract is from the Swiss newspaper the Imperial dated 29 August 1924:

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The departure of the ex-Caliph
GENEVA, 29. - According to the "Petit Parisien"
the ex-Caliph of Turkey will be moving his residence in exile
[from Switzerland] to the villa Xoulces in Cimiez, near to Nice.
This lovely residence was built some years ago by a rich Vosges
industrialist. The villa is rented by it's owners and has been
occupied by many people of high standing. A son of Mr. Venizelos
[Sofokles Venizelos, son of Eleftherios Venizelos], married Miss
Zervudachi [Kathleen Zervudachi] there and the princess Ilmaiil [Ismai'l?],
widow of an old Egyptian Khedive, ended her long life there.
This villa Xoulces will soon, maybe tomorrow, be the residence
of the ex-Caliph of Turkey - Abd ul Medjid.

The princes of the royal family have been living in an oriental-style
residence, not far from the villa Xoulces, since their departure from
Turkey. These are: the princess Zekje, her husband, the prince
Damad Noureddin pacha; the princess Naime and her husband
the prince Djelaeddin pacha, the princess Fekime and her
husband, the prince Damad Mohamed bey; the princess Kadrie
and her husband, the prince Damad Rachid bey.

With them, Abdul Medjid will be able to put up more easily with the
boredom of exile in this prestigious palm-treed environment which
will evoke memories of the faraway homeland

The second extract from the Feuille d'Avis de Neuchatel from the same day
is very short and contains no new information:

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Great info Chris, many thanks... and if your French is now rusty it must have been phenomenal at it's peak :-)
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