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This is the scan of the label I have aquired, I question is it scarce or not.

Seven Seas state on their pages this label is unknown sent to anyplace other than UK.

Rod Perry has kindly informed me he has not seen another that has not been sent to UK apart from this .

Does the added, No 14 A near bottom have significance, I have not seen this before ?

Any comments about this Item would be appreciated, I feel there is extra value and interest due to the India sending, thanks in advance .

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Seven Seas state on their pages this label is unknown sent to any place other than UK.
Unusual use but I sincerely doubt Seven Seas Stamps have ever stated anything of this kind.

Can you please post EXACTLY what they allegedly say, and advise where they say it?
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Seven Seas state on their pages this label is unknown sent to any place other than UK.
Unusual use but I sincerely doubt Seven Seas Stamps have ever stated anything of this kind.

Can you please post EXACTLY what they allegedly say, and advise where they say it?
This was posted by Jaywalker 31/1/13, I kept a copy for reference., just re read and I see he has beaten me to repost it , many thanks Jay.

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Got it - I thought you were referring their Seven Seas Catalogues which would have been relevant to value. :mrgreen:

Those pages were designed 40 years back. They have not sold those Food parcel pages for 20 years or so. The ACSC clearly states they were were for the concession rate to ENGLAND (and I'd believe them and not Seven Seas!), so if true, use to India would be illegal most likely, and may or may not have been taxed - we will never know for sure sadly, as the label is soaked off parcel outer.
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Global Administrator wrote:Got it - I thought you were referring their Seven Seas Catalogues which would have been relevant to value. :mrgreen:

Those pages were designed 40 years back. They have not sold those Food parcel pages for 20 years or so. The ACSC clearly states they were were for the concession rate to ENGLAND (and I'd believe them and not Seven Seas!), so if true, use to India would be illegal most likely, and may or may not have been taxed - we will never know for sure sadly, as the label is soaked off parcel outer.
Would you hazard a guess to value or estimate range , It may be the only one ?

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RAF Kalyan was a Royal Air Force airfield near Kalyan, in British India. It was used mostly during World War II.

PO might have assumed a Military concession rate applied. Indeed in 1946 it might still have applied.

Unusual for sure. Value hard to say off a scan, reverses of these often really terrible.

Condition is EVERYTHING with these re price. Not unlike the backs of stamps. :mrgreen:
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Global Administrator wrote:RAF Kalyan was a Royal Air Force airfield near Kalyan, in British India. It was used mostly during World War II.

PO might have assumed a Military concession rate applied. Indeed in 1946 it might still have done.

Unusual for sure. Value hard to say off a scan, reverses of these often really terrible.

Condition is EVERYTHING with these re price. Not unlike the backs of stamps. :mrgreen:
Here is the back , no thins.

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dukeprince,

a specialist item such as this is virtually impossible to value. The only way to find out the value is to offer it at a mainstream auction house that specialises in Australian material.

As presumably you do not wish to sell it, then let us know how much you paid for it and I am sure that there will be some who say you paid too much and others that you got it a bargain price.

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David Benson wrote:dukeprince,

a specialist item such as this is virtually impossible to value. The only way to find out the value is to offer it at a mainstream auction house that specialises in Australian material.

As presumably you do not wish to sell it, then let us know how much you paid for it and I am sure that there will be some who say you paid too much and others that you got it a bargain price.

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Thanks David it was Purchased from an old Family friend at Mates Rates worked out by what he was comfortable with and it would not be in my or perhaps his interest to divulge this , any range of estimates would be helpfull as I usually add a value in my collection.

It may be of interest to others as to what method I use to value my stamps .

I note a portion of Australian average Worker weeks pay to items , this should hold up over a time far better than a number , for instance a used Sydney View stamp would be noted at 1 third a weeks pay , a used 5/-Harbour bridge at half a weeks pay and so on , a common Stamp may be 1 Hrs pay, etc etc, easy to pencil note in a shorthand way along side.

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Well seeing you have your own patented code system, and seeing you know your cost which you will not reveal, you've worked out your own code to add. :lol:
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Global Administrator wrote:Well seeing you have your own patented code system, and seeing you know your cost which you will not reveal, you've worked out your own code to add. :lol:
I add a Price code as to what an Item is worth not what I paid for it or CV , to do otherwise would just not make sense as the price I paid would continually rise, sigh!

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Here is the relevant page from the wonderful Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue - Postal Stationery volume.


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Hopefully Rod Perry can chime in and tell us how special this usage to India is. It looks as though these labels weren't saved by collectors at the time, a print run of over ¼ million is a reasonable number, but they are certainly rare items.


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Heaven help your beneficiaries when it comes time to work out a value for your collection then.

Coded notations are going to be next to useless to them.

I pencil in what I paid in my books to guide my beneficiaries and me as memory fades.


To accept less than was originally paid for an item seems to me to be like selling $1 for 10c.

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I don't think anyone has considered the concessional defence force rates.

At 5/10d it would have been considerably overpaid.

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Fossick, not so. I have recently been offered a collection of South Australia squared circle cancellations. What is apparent from the surviving notations and invoices is that the collector often paid many times current market value for this material. I take recent Australian auction house realizations to be market value, more or less.

In my case the family won't sell because they feel I am trying to take advantage. Even when I step them through the available information.

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starling wrote:Here is the relevant page from the wonderful Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue - Postal Stationery volume.


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Hopefully Rod Perry can chime in and tell us how special this usage to India is. It looks as though these labels weren't saved by collectors at the time, a print run of over ¼ million is a reasonable number, but they are certainly rare items.


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As stated in the initial post Rod has seen a scan and he did kindly give me an Auction estimate He is allways helpful and I appreciate it, I think he is a bit low but what owner does not always think that .

Seeking opinions is a wonderful resource on stampboards and I am hopeful of getting some reinforcement as to a value, my gut feeling is full CV at A$800 is close because a normal sending to UK sells around A$450 plus or minus.

At this point in time show me another as the saying goes.

Some will say I am asking for to much assistance or guidence but I do like to get as close as I can to values , please tolerate and Old Fella trying to hone in on this.

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fossick wrote:Heaven help your beneficiaries when it comes time to work out a value for your collection then.

Coded notations are going to be next to useless to them.

I pencil in what I paid in my books to guide my beneficiaries and me as memory fades.


To accept less than was originally paid for an item seems to me to be like selling $1 for 10c.

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My Whole family are aware of my code , it has worked quite well to show current values over a decade , as I said not Cv and not whats paid , if you use those many years further down the track you will have to re read CVs and add or minus for condition all over again , and again.

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dwhopper wrote:Fossick, not so. I have recently been offered a collection of South Australia squared circle cancellations. What is apparent from the surviving notations and invoices is that the collector often paid many times current market value for this material. I take recent Australian auction house realizations to be market value, more or less.

In my case the family won't sell because they feel I am trying to take advantage. Even when I step them through the available information.

I have seen this and been there , I would love to find a 20 year old collection that noted Stamps valued at a portion of a weeks pay, etc etc.

Say around 20 years ago a good used 5/- Bridge notated at half an average aussie weeks pay would be $200 , now today that would be $400 aproximate values of course , but a good moving guide nontheless.

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Kalyan was the place where a huge Military Transit Camp Complex was built at the last phase of WW2 in 1945 to house the homebound Br. soldiers waiting to get released from active service, who served in India and South East Asia.

The complex included 5 separate camps, each designed to accomodate 8000 soldiers and to cater them, each camp was initially provided with a civil post office but in August 1945, the postal arrangement was taken over by the Army Postal Service when a Base Post Office, Kalyan APO was opened at the Group HQ Camp and 4 FPOs were opened for all 5 camps with 1 FPO kept as reserve.

The Kalyan APO functioned independently which also controlled the FPO 65 at Urali and FPO 155 at Lake Beale before being closed down on December 31,1946.

In 1946, the only RAF unit remaining at Kalyan was the 3 Mobile Parachute Servicing Unit which moved out by January and no RAFPOST unit was present in Kalyan in 1946, which functioned under 2 Base Postal Unit RAFPOST, Mumbai which itself got closed down again on the same day December 31,1946.

So, the address 3 Wing most likely refers to Camp 3 but I could not find any reference whether any Aussie soldier was kept at the camps.

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1. Indian Army Post Offices in the Second World War.
Diljit Singh Virk.
The Army Postal Service Association, New Dilli 1982
Chapter XXVIII: India Command (1)‒Postal Operations 1942‒1947; p.311

2. Indian Army Post Offices Locations and Movements 1939‒1947.
Diljit Singh Virk.
Ed. Arthur Joseph Brown and William Garrand.
The Forces Postal History Society, London, England 1973
Section 5: Other Indian Postal Units; p.127

3. History of the RAF Postal Service Overseas 1942–1957 Volume I.
William Garrand.
Chavril Press, Peairt, Scotland 1992
India Base Postal Units; p.33
Changes and Movements of Base Postal Units; p.39

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List of FPOs in Military Transit Camp Complex, Kalyan (August 1945–December 31,1946) under Kalyan APO
  • Kalyan APO 1
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 2
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 3
    (in reserve)
  • Kalyan APO 4
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 5
    (09.28.1945.–12.31.1946)

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Joy Daschaudhuri wrote:List of FPOs in Military Transit Camp Complex, Kalyan (August 1945–December 31,1946) under Kalyan APO
  • Kalyan APO 1
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 2
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 3
    (in reserve)
  • Kalyan APO 4
    (08.04.1945.–12.31.1946)
  • Kalyan APO 5
    (09.28.1945.–12.31.1946)
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The date on the label is ?-30 PM 4DE 46 so perhaps arrived very close to closing of Kalyan may even be after if it went by sea , as we have no issue date apart from after July 1946 this is within the first months of use so is and early label as well , the learning increases thanks to Stampboards and its Members , there is no other resource that matches it!
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Joy,

I think you will find that the addressee was in the British Royal Air Force not the Australian,

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David Benson wrote:Joy,

I think you will find that the addressee was in the British Royal Air Force not the Australian,

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I've suggested to dukeprince that the 5/10d rate may have been applicable to British Forces serving outside of UK.

The concessional rates available to Australian Defence Forces are not related to this item.

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This image loaded as some may not have seen the lesser cost 3/7d similar label issued at the same time.

It is more scarce than the 5/10d label as it was used far less, I assume the reciever wished to remain unknown when passing on this Label so scratched out his name/address, pride was important at that time even if unfounded in reality, I does not seem feasable that it was that place only that was scraped in transit.

I have had some fun at the address, best I can do is .

W MIDDLETON ESQ
WALLACE WELLS RD
HIGHBRIDGE SOMERSET
ENGLAND.

The biggest assumption was wallace wells rd as it was the only name long enough to fit that I could find on google maps in tha area.



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My sniping bids were not high enough to win this on ebay today.

I also missed out on a similar label with 3/7d in stamps on board.


Any one here got similar to sell? (I have recently bought a MYER EMPORIUM label and these are needed to complement the page .... )
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Hello Vickingeck,

Is this something that you might be interested in purchasing ??

Dated 20th September 1941, it is a large intact parcel wrapping . Total posting information intact, as well as import custom due 1/-and 3d .

Listed contents/ under "A Gift".

Pair 2/- CofA , pair 4d Koala and single KGV11 2d

Have a look if interested contact via E-mail please. Happy to post any close up scans here.


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Thanks for the offer Les , However this pre-dates the immediate post war parcels which were exempt from Customs duty and came at 3/7d or 5/10d rate.

These are the ones I'm looking for. However an email sent.

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Alex

Not a Label but a franking piece.

You only have a couple of hours until it ends.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUSTRALIA-1947-GIFT-PARCEL-ADVERTI ... 1678551594

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well I was watching this for 3 days with a Snipe lying in wait. 0.99p with 10 seconds to go !!!!!

I did win, but had to go to £17.00 to get it ...............

...I just hope the underbidder who pushed me up was not an SB member who came in at the last minute.

3/7d meter mark used 1947 .
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Here is a Parcel Post label franked for 3/7d Food parcel rate.

I have found these considerably scarcer than the 3/7d Stationery cut-out.
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I have to agree Rod ...........................back in 1946 who would have kept the label intact . Stampy Kids would have had the stamps off and the label destroyed.

The embossed 5/10 & 3/7d item cut out had more chance of getting rescued.

Incidentaly the 5/10d rates seem much more numerous than the 3/7d, but I believe there was also a 1/11d rate . Anyone seen labels with this? How common/ scarce are they ?
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I actually sent you an internal email regarding this item a few days again, which apparently you did not receive?

The item featured is being sent for auction later this week, and I offered it to you directly at an under auction estimate sum.

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I was having a look around using different search criteria and found this label.

It appears to be from 1948 and the vendor has grouped it with Myer labels.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTRALIA-EXPRESS-PARCELS-LABEL-SYDNEY-TO-UK-PAID-/232064626722

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This receipt from the Commonwealth Bank for 10 shillings was for the Food For Britain Fund and the Express Food Parcel is mentioned at the bottom.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-1949-Food-For-Great-Britai ... 2153680136

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traralgon3844 wrote:This receipt from the Commonwealth Bank for 10 shillings was for the Food For Britain Fund and the Express Food Parcel is mentioned at the bottom.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-1949-Food-For-Great-Britai ... 2153680136

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The Food parcels era, embracing elements of both Postal stationery and Postal history, would make for a great minimum one-frame exhibit.

I don't believe such an initiative has yet been attempted?

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Rod Perry wrote:Here is a Parcel Post label franked for 3/7d Food parcel rate.

I have found these considerably scarcer than the 3/7d Stationery cut-out.
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Rod, perhaps you can expand my knowledge on these please.

When did they come into use and end?

Did they run concurrent with or were they a precursor to the Myer type embossed label, and used possibly by lesser known Stores ?

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Re: Australian 1940s Food parcel label like this - WANTED!!!

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Rod Perry wrote:Here is a Parcel Post label franked for 3/7d Food parcel rate.

I have found these considerably scarcer than the 3/7d Stationery cut-out.
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Rod, perhaps you can expand my knowledge on these please.

When did they come into use and end?

Did they run concurrent with or were they a precursor to the Myer type embossed label, and used possibly by lesser known Stores ?
The above label was used in 1949.

The 3/7d and 5/10d embossed Stationery labels were available 1946-49, but Food parcels were being sent to UK as soon as the War ended.

It was as a consequence of the large number of parcels being prepared by Myer that the request was made to the P.O. to introduce prepaid labels for the service.

Theoretically, 3/7d and 5/10d rate parcels could be sent up until July 9 1951.

On that date, the rates increased to 6/10d and 10/2d, respectively, and doubtless plenty of Food parcels were sent at those rates, such was the austerity duration in UK.

A one frame exhibit of the three tier levels of parcel rates (including the 1/11d rate mentioned above - that became 3/5d after July 9 1951) would make for an exciting project.

Any takers?

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Rod Perry wrote:
dukeprince wrote:
Rod Perry wrote:Here is a Parcel Post label franked for 3/7d Food parcel rate.

I have found these considerably scarcer than the 3/7d Stationery cut-out.
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Rod, perhaps you can expand my knowledge on these please.

When did they come into use and end?

Did they run concurrent with or were they a precursor to the Myer type embossed label, and used possibly by lesser known Stores ?
The above label was used in 1949.

The 3/7d and 5/10d embossed Stationery labels were available 1946-49, but Food parcels were being sent to UK as soon as the War ended.

It was as a consequence of the large number of parcels being prepared by Myer that the request was made to the P.O. to introduce prepaid labels for the service.

Theoretically, 3/7d and 5/10d rate parcels could be sent up until July 9 1951.

On that date, the rates increased to 6/10d and 10/2d, respectively, and doubtless plenty of Food parcels were sent at those rates, such was the austerity duration in UK.

A one frame exhibit of the three tier levels of parcel rates (including the 1/11d rate mentioned above - that became 3/5d after July 9 1951) would make for an exciting project.

Any takers?

Rod
Thanks Rod I dont exhibit but I find these alluring, so these custom labels with stamps were first in use just after the war?

Were they used at the same time as Myer labels but by others?

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dukeprince wrote:
Rod Perry wrote:
dukeprince wrote:
Rod Perry wrote:Here is a Parcel Post label franked for 3/7d Food parcel rate.

I have found these considerably scarcer than the 3/7d Stationery cut-out.
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Rod
Rod, perhaps you can expand my knowledge on these please.

When did they come into use and end?

Did they run concurrent with or were they a precursor to the Myer type embossed label, and used possibly by lesser known Stores ?
The above label was used in 1949.

The 3/7d and 5/10d embossed Stationery labels were available 1946-49, but Food parcels were being sent to UK as soon as the War ended.

It was as a consequence of the large number of parcels being prepared by Myer that the request was made to the P.O. to introduce prepaid labels for the service.

Theoretically, 3/7d and 5/10d rate parcels could be sent up until July 9 1951.

On that date, the rates increased to 6/10d and 10/2d, respectively, and doubtless plenty of Food parcels were sent at those rates, such was the austerity duration in UK.

A one frame exhibit of the three tier levels of parcel rates (including the 1/11d rate mentioned above - that became 3/5d after July 9 1951) would make for an exciting project.

Any takers?

Rod
Thanks Rod I dont exhibit but I find these alluring, so these custom labels with stamps were first in use just after the war?

Were they used at the same time as Myer labels but by others?
They are Post Office Parcel Post rather than Customs labels, and were in use in many and varied editions well before WWII.

Anyone could send a Food parcel, the rate was available to all; the use of a Parcel Post label was the domain of those who did not have the scale of the Myer, Hordern, and other mass users of the parcel post system.

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Thanks Rod, understood, I have seen a few pastel colours in these labels so assume different year or era editions.

The 10/- payment for express Parcels to the commonwealth bank as shown earlier are a mystery to me.

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It seems that the parcel labels were first and continued right through.

It was not possible to make the 3/7 or 5/10 rate with fewer than 3 stamps and the handwritten declaration was labour intensive.

The Myer, Hordern & Dept Of Agriculture labels with stamp imprint were created for these organisations with large number of orders to dispatch, with PO authority, and did not require a declaration of contents.
They must have come second but from quite an early date.


Having just come into this arena with 2 pages and 4 items I can hardly hope to get the 16 needed for a one frame exhibit any time soon :( :(
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vikingeck wrote:It seems that the parcel labels were first and continued right through.

It was not possible to make the 3/7 or 5/10 rate with fewer than 3 stamps and the handwritten declaration was labour intensive.

The Myer, Hordern & Dept Of Agriculture labels with stamp imprint were created for these organisations with large number of orders to dispatch, with PO authority, and did not require a declaration of contents.
They must have come second but from quite an early date.


Having just come into this arena with 2 pages and 4 items I can hardly hope to get the 16 needed for a one frame exhibit any time soon :( :(
The information is slowly growing , what would be a ballpark figure for parcel label with stamps like you are seeking in both the 3/7 format and the 5/10 format.

As per the Myer type I am guessing 3/7 is scarcer and dearer?

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I'm Kicking myself , because I was the underbidder on just such a pair here in the UK a month ago . Both by the same ebay seller in UK.

My snipes of £25 on each were beaten. so obviously too low. ($45 each )

A Melbourne seller had one of the 5/10d rate which I bought for quite a bit less than his asking price of £100 ($180) as it has been on his inventory for quite a few months now.


As a matter of passing interest ,the Postage of 5/10d is hefty compared to the declared value of the contents, which came to 10/6d for a parcel weighing 7 lbs 4oz.

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This puts the receipt label of 10/- shown above into context . It just about buys the contents of a parcel!
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vikingeck wrote:I'm Kicking myself , because I was the underbidder on just such a pair here in the UK a month ago . Both by the same ebay seller in UK.

My snipes of £25 on each were beaten. so obviously too low. ($45 each )

A Melbourne seller had one of the 5/10d rate which I bought for quite a bit less than his asking price of £100 ($180) as it has been on his inventory for quite a few months now.


As a matter of passing interest ,the Postage of 5/10d is hefty compared to the declared value of the contents, which came to 10/6d for a parcel weighing 7 lbs 4oz.

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This puts the receipt label of 10/- shown above into context . It just about buys the contents of a parcel!
I conclude that A$100 is a start point for the 3/7 + 5/10 , and A$200 for a nice one is not out of the question, its roughly what I thought, someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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Hi vikingeck,

Still looking?

I bought this one on Delcampe recently:
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Not sure about the condition, but I do find it interesting.

I am willing to sell or trade.

Best wishes,
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Hi Everyone,

This one is for Sale at Millennium Auctions General No. 60 Lot #600

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This is the Write up.

1949 (29 Mar) use of parcel post label at Stockport (SA), franked at 3/7d for Food Parcel at 3-7lbs rate to UK, manuscript 'Cake & Dried Fruits', fine condition, considerably scarcer than 3/7d embossed stationery cut-out


Estimate: $250 Purchase Price : $222 After the Auction + Fees Probably.( But not sure )

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Kiwidude wrote:Hi Everyone,

This one is for Sale at Millennium Auctions General No. 60 Lot #600

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This is the Write up.

1949 (29 Mar) use of parcel post label at Stockport (SA), franked at 3/7d for Food Parcel at 3-7lbs rate to UK, manuscript 'Cake & Dried Fruits', fine condition, considerably scarcer than 3/7d embossed stationery cut-out


Estimate: $250 Purchase Price : $222 After the Auction + Fees Probably.( But not sure )

Peter
"Purchase Price" includes Buyer's premium.

vikingeck (originator of topic) was offered this item prior to it being consigned to auction.

It can now be bought for $3 less than the price at which it was originally offered.

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I am collecting any items to do with the Food for Britain schemes just after WW2 , seems a few different schemes were running concurrently.

The item had to be tilted to fit the scanner , apologies.

Bottom left of Wrapper reads food for Britain Appeal

Which scheme did this wrapper belong and what was it wrapped around , maybe a book , paper or even a Jam Jar?

Anyone have any more obscure items or information greatly appreciated, John.

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A variation on the theme.
GlenStephens wrote:Scan of my interesting Food Parcel label from BCOF Japan in 1948 to London as outlined below. Australian label, "Aust ARMY PO 214" cds cancelling the BRITISH stamps paying the postage. :mrgreen:
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The BBC link below that food rationing existed in the UK until 1954 might surprise many! :mrgreen:

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1946 5/10d Blue Myer Emporium Melbourne food Parcel Label: For anyone not aware of the history of these historic items, they are the rarest Australian post-war Postal Stationary items.

In the late 1940s (indeed until 1954) Britons were subject to rationing. Even as late as 1950 goods such as these were still rationed in the UK - canned and dried fruit, chocolate biscuits, treacle, syrup, jellies, soap, sugar - and of course much fresh produce like milk, butter and meat and of course petrol.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/4/newsid_3818000/3818563.stm

Australia was the bread basket of the "Motherland" for much of this produce, which was freely available in Australian stores. Rationed goods in England that transported well - such as canned and dried fruit, chocolate biscuits, treacle, syrup, jellies, soap, sugar were cheap to buy here, and of course greatly sought after in Britain.

At that time most Australians had a "British Connection" with relatives and immediate family in the old country. Indeed at this time the Australian population was almost entirely Anglo-Saxon.

An extensive "Food For Britain" campaign was mounted in the post-war years. The largest department store Myer was very active in selling these "ration busting hampers" packed full of local made goodies that would survive a long sea voyage.

The Post Office offered a special low cost concession reduced rate of 5/10d for 14 pound weight cartons of such goods. This was an INCREDIBLY low rate. A standard ½ oz airmail letter to the UK cost 1/6d - or more than 25% the cost of a heavy carton of food!



I did buy last week a clean and attractive complete large label GREEN parcel label "Commonwealth Of Australia Parcel Post" to UK, declared in RED ink, as containing

"12 packets of foodstuffs - meat, cheese, biscuits, synthetic coffee and sweets"

The goods were declared as being worth £1/17/6d on label. Stock 825HK at $A175 and very cheap methinks. I've NEVER seen another, even at auction.

And was sent from the BCOF Office in TOKYO Japan, via S.G. Wilson, Labor Attache to the UKLM.

Wonderful franking of large blocks of GB 5d KGVI stamps, all nearly cancelled "AUST ARMY PO - 2 AU 48 - 214" at BCOF Japan. Australia ran the BCOF operation.

Franking is blocks 25 x 5d and one 1½d KGVI (10/11½d) British stamps with neat Aust Army P.O (AAPO) 214 cancels

Between 1946 and 1952, prior to the Treaty of San Francisco, the UK Liaison Mission in Tokyo ("UKLM") acted as the role of a diplomatic mission in Japan.

They were NOT the Military however, and did not qualify for the Soldier concession air rate to UK of 6d an ounce, and the civilian AIRMAIL rate to UK was 3/- an ounce. In this case the normal parcel rate applied. We have a 9/- franking, thus a 3oz (85 gram) or less letter, which ties in.

In September 1946 the "APO 214" datestamp had been transferred to Britcom Sub-Base Area, Tokyo, replacing "452". The allocation of "214" to Tokyo lifted the status of the Australian office considerably.

In September 1946 "APO 214" date stamp had been transferred to Britcom Sub-Base Area, Tokyo replacing 452. The allocation of 214 to Tokyo lifted the status of the Australian office considerably.

A variety of circumstances brought about the increasing importance of the Tokyo office. One factor was the frequent presence on Tokyo of Australian troops in ceremonial parades and guard duties at the imperial palace, particularly before the drastic reduction of Australian army strength in late 1948.

A large diplomatic representation had built up in Tokyo - two of many being the Australian Diplomatic Mission to Supreme Commander Allied Powers (SCAP) and a separate Australian Reparation Mission.

Mail was also generated by Australians serving within HQ SCAP as well as those under BCOF command in Tokyo. Even though the main part of the British component of BCOF had withdrawn in 1947-48, there still remained substantial British representation in Tokyo.

I've added a scan of the BCOF JAPAN parcel outer above. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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