Stamp Perforation errors - share your images here

nigelc · Post by **nigelc** » 25 Jan 2010 10:13

Thanks guys - so there were two elements, an extra strike by the comb and the comb not advancing as far as normal (probably because it was impeded by the edge of the plate or something associated with it?).

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 25 Jan 2010 10:20

Obvious when you think about it!

Cheers
Chris

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 25 Jan 2010 10:29

nigelc wrote:Thanks guys - so there were two elements, an extra strike by the comb and the comb not advancing as far as normal (probably because it was impeded by the edge of the plate or something associated with it?).

The sheets would have been bundled for perforation. When you think about it, there probably was something to keep them in place as they were violated by the perforator!

So yes, as good an explanation as any as to why the comb did not advance it's normal distance.

Londonbus1 · Post by **Londonbus1** » 26 Jan 2010 06:13

From the Flag collection.

Londonbus1.....now you know where I got it from !!!

Allanswood · Post by **Allanswood** » 26 Jan 2010 15:25

PeterS wrote:
nigelc wrote:Thanks guys - so there were two elements, an extra strike by the comb and the comb not advancing as far as normal (probably because it was impeded by the edge of the plate or something associated with it?).
The sheets would have been bundled for perforation. When you think about it, there probably was something to keep them in place as they were violated by the perforator!

So yes, as good an explanation as any as to why the comb did not advance it's normal distance.

I'm not at home so...
Is the watermark meant to be sideways?

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 26 Jan 2010 18:34

Yes, wmk is meant to be sideways on this stamp.

Cheers
Chris

tonymacg · Post by **tonymacg** » 26 Jan 2010 19:36

I must say, I find these misplaced and double perforations a bit thin ...

Now Travancore, and its successor Travancore-Cochin, knew how to do a perforation error:

Travancore SG 76ba, and

Travancore-Cochin SG O10fc

and for good measure, here's an unlisted error:

SG O10g unlisted imperf between

tonymacg · Post by **tonymacg** » 26 Jan 2010 19:41

On the principle that you can never have too much of a good thing,

Travancore-Cochin SG O11cd, and

Travancore-Cochin SG 11bb

But wait, there's more:

Travancore-Cochin SG O6da and

Travancore-Cochin SG O6db

And that's hardly scratching the surface of the surface of the riches available in Travancore and Travancore-Cochin

GUTTERS · Post by **GUTTERS** » 26 Jan 2010 20:46

For the heck of it

norvic · Post by **norvic** » 27 Jan 2010 04:07

The die-cut perfs on self-adhesives can also go wrong. This should be captioned Worldwide:

Comes from a book of 4:

Of course it's not just the die-cut that's wrong as the stamps are closer to the top than to the bottom edge of the book.

Sisophon · Post by **Sisophon** » 27 Jan 2010 04:17

S/S from Cambodia.
3 hits and still cannot make it right .......

norvic · Post by **norvic** » 27 Jan 2010 04:55

Sisophon wrote:

S/S from Cambodia.
3 hits and still cannot make it right .......

I suppose they thought it should depict the hurdles event

traralgon3844 · Post by **traralgon3844** » 27 Jan 2010 05:01

norvic wrote:The die-cut perfs on self-adhesives can also go wrong.

Sure can:

HILLS · Post by **HILLS** » 28 Jan 2010 18:44

Hi,Striking King George Imperf from New Zealand.
Cheers
Wayne

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 29 Jan 2010 07:11

I have shown this elsewhere (once or twice) but it belongs here as well.

There was a major problem that occurred when perforating the sheet this block comes from. Obvious double perfs at base. However, the entire second last row (and the bottom right stamp) have been removed and other stamps inserted. Imagine how bad the removed stamps must have looked!

A classic example of 'waste not, want not' in early Australian stamp production.

crazygerman · Post by **crazygerman** » 29 Jan 2010 08:30

HILLS wrote:
Hi,Striking King George Imperf from New Zealand.
Cheers
Wayne

Hi Wayne,

that's very very beautiful. Perf error on such a nice recess printed stamp!
I like it.
If you happen to give the block away, I'd take it

Regards, Lars

RolyRJ · Post by **RolyRJ** » 30 Jan 2010 09:20

Not a perforation error but I am sure the Brits must have been reading this thread and said "this will stuff 'em up"

Cheers

Roly

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 08 Feb 2010 00:50

tooler · Post by **tooler** » 08 Feb 2010 05:03

1971 Eisenhower 8¢

norvic · Post by **norvic** » 09 Mar 2010 09:14

I should have posted this stunner earlier - it's in another 'newsy' thread, but deserves its place here as well:

It's actually hanging together by the horizontal perfs - sadly not mine, but images sent by a reader.

Kev · Post by **Kev** » 09 Mar 2010 15:55

Global Administrator wrote:
And this one I really like, from the one sheet found of the 1975 top value $10.

As a matter of interest which country issued these?

Cheers, Kev.

Allanswood · Post by **Allanswood** » 09 Mar 2010 15:58

I'll vote Canada? (Victoria)

Went and checked google - Yes Kev and Peter, its Victoria Australia
$40 an entire sheetr on ebay.(normal not missed perfed)

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 09 Mar 2010 16:07

Kev wrote:
Global Administrator wrote:
And this one I really like, from the one sheet found of the 1975 top value $10.
As a matter of interest which country issued these?

Cheers, Kev.

Victoria, Australia for hunting licenses (I think).

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:21

A few examples from Soviet-occupied Germany.

If they look familiar, I've shown some of these on another thread, but they belong equally here:

This one is on one of the Berlin-Brandenberg "Bears", resulting in the inscription appearing at the bottom of the stamp. This is really a "Misroul" as it is misplaced rouletting, not perforation...

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:22

Province of Saxony locally (mis)perforated.

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:23

East Saxony perforation error, this one being Imperf at the bottom.

East Saxony Reconstruction issue cut to shape to give an approximation of the full design!!!

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:24

West Saxony, extra horizontal row of perforations near the top of the design.

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:25

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

The children's charity stamp on the left has two additional lines of perfs in the top margin.

The Land Reform and Rebuilding stamps to the right are both examples of the vertical perforations being badly misplaced and "cut to shape".

Post by **gavin-h** » 09 Mar 2010 19:26

Soviet Zone General issue - postally used, shows a clear second strike of the perforator.

Wolfgang · Post by **Wolfgang** » 09 Mar 2010 20:18

no fault, the line comes from the scanner!

Sold at our last ING "For members only " auction

Philatelius · Post by **Philatelius** » 10 Mar 2010 13:30

tonymacg · Post by **tonymacg** » 10 Mar 2010 15:16

It's a while since I gave this an airing:

Jind SG J45a, and the only perforation error from Jind in its heyday

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 11 Mar 2010 15:01

Hello here is one I think a bit interesting,

I`m not to concerned with the left and right sides {Edward scissor hands at work ?}.
But you can clearly see on the top the frame of the next stamp , so I would have assumed the Bottom Perf to have been in the same area ???, So how/why did they get so high.

Regards

C . P .

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 11 Mar 2010 15:08

It is the marginal line, not another stamp (you can see that the green line is continuous and doesn't fit into the same space as teh stamp). Given how far away the top perfs are I suspect there was a jump in the comb. Pity the vertical perfs are missing!

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 11 Mar 2010 17:09

Thanks for that Peter ,
Yes I see what you mean by the line now that you mention it , and yes it is a pity about the vertical perfs , I dont think the right side has been cut but more just brutally torn off , left side definitely a scissor job.
Never mind put it in the weird and wonderful box

Regards

C . P .

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 12 Mar 2010 18:42

Hello , and a question for Sir Peter ,

would you be able to reperf the vert`s to make it look better , or is this A not done thing , if so whom would do it .

Regards

C . P .

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 17 Mar 2010 21:26

STUNNED SILENCE WAS THE ANSWER

Allanswood · Post by **Allanswood** » 17 Mar 2010 22:04

Thats becasue Peter wasnt standing beside you with a Tazer!
Otherwise I think you'd be the stunned one!

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 17 Mar 2010 22:49

Thanks Greg ,
Well I did ask if it was "A" done thing or not , a simple yes or no would have been sufficient .
I can see the reasons why not, if a crook is selling it but if it was defined as such I personally can`t see a problem , like a repaired stamp and duly marked as such .
But I will no doubt cop it .

.

Regards

C . P .

Allanswood · Post by **Allanswood** » 17 Mar 2010 23:08

Peter, is this what you mean by a jump in the comb to make a stamp larger?

CP Ive sent an email.

Global Administrator · Post by **Global Administrator** » 17 Mar 2010 23:45

Re the above questions.

We live in a strange world with stamps. Perfect centred get big money. Well off centre so that perfs touch 1 or 2 sides get a half of that. Yet go even more off centre and it becomes a "perf freak" - and it sells for MORE than well centred! Often many times more.

We have here an unusual "JUMBO" stamp. A nice looking stamp with a MASSIVE margin at base. The Americans call these "JUMBOS" and they sell for much more than an ordinary copy.

Clean and fresh, and appeared to me to be MUH original gum at first glance, but probably has once had a light hinge touch.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17921

I've priced it for less than a normal centred hinged stamp. A great piece of striking eye-candy for the specialist.

tonymacg · Post by **tonymacg** » 19 Mar 2010 13:07

Just received this one

Cochin SG 117a - imperf between in a horizontal pair

Unlike next-door neighbour Travancore, this type of perforation error is quite uncommon from Cochin. At a rather more humble level, it also shows a missing perforation pin in both rows of perfs.

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 19 Mar 2010 13:31

compoundperf wrote:Thanks Greg ,
Well I did ask if it was "A" done thing or not , a simple yes or no would have been sufficient .
I can see the reasons why not, if a crook is selling it but if it was defined as such I personally can`t see a problem , like a repaired stamp and duly marked as such .
But I will no doubt cop it . .

Regards

C . P .

I was, initally, too stunned that you would even ask such a question. Then I just assumed it was a rhetorical one, made in jest! I see, now, that you were serious???

Let me just say that I have seen some idiotic suggestions in my time (probably even contributed one or 2 myself), but that.........

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 19 Mar 2010 13:34

Allanswood wrote:Peter, is this what you mean by a jump in the comb to make a stamp larger?

CP Ive sent an email.

Perforating was, relative to modern methods, primitive. That is why you get variability in size of stamps that are obviously with original, genuine, perfs.

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 19 Mar 2010 13:36

tonymacg wrote:Just received this one

Cochin SG 117a - imperf between in a horizontal pair

Unlike next-door neighbour Travancore, this type of perforation error is quite uncommon from Cochin. At a rather more humble level, it also shows a missing perforation pin in both rows of perfs.

No doubt why the poor bugger looks so bloody sad.

compoundperf · Post by **compoundperf** » 19 Mar 2010 13:52

Thank You Peter for your reply, I think I now get your drift as to re-perfs .
You can now put the Taser away

.
Fond Regards
C . P .

PeterS · Post by **PeterS** » 19 Mar 2010 14:29

compoundperf wrote:Thank You Peter for your reply, I think I now get your drift as to re-perfs .
You can now put the Taser away .
Fond Regards
C . P .

I don't have a taser, just a .350 magnum!

tonymacg · Post by **tonymacg** » 19 Mar 2010 15:06

PeterS wrote:
tonymacg wrote:Just received this one

Cochin SG 117a - imperf between in a horizontal pair

Unlike next-door neighbour Travancore, this type of perforation error is quite uncommon from Cochin. At a rather more humble level, it also shows a missing perforation pin in both rows of perfs.
No doubt why the poor bugger looks so bloody sad.

Maharaja Rama Varma IV might have been depressed by that suggestion from your friend Compound Perf, Peter. More likely the melancholy was due to the disappearance of his state into the United State of Travancore-Cochin in the same year (and the realization that was his first and last chance to appear on a pictorial

)

manfaefife · Post by **manfaefife** » 03 Nov 2010 11:07

Resurrecting an old thread with this USA 3 Cents misperf

DJM · Post by **DJM** » 03 Nov 2010 14:11

I have this one in stock that someone here ordered but I now can't remember who!

How much for that block Glen ?

Darrin.