The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

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Germany will be issuing a stamp on 3 September 2020 to commemorate the 75th Anniversary of the issuing of the first Allied Military Government Stamps in occupied Germany.
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Thanks for the info. DJCMH. Nice idea! Will look out for it.

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Scan i. Mi. 30 XXI.

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The image you show for Mi.30 XXI is not correct.

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Thanks 2 a.m.post

Please indicate on your example the flaw. Maybe an enlargement too to help see what the details are?

The so called ´break` in the top that I indicated is not clear and is more a fading than a clinical break.

If your example is the same as mine you can see that there is a thin connecting ´tube`in the ´break` in yours as opposed to my less clear example. More a thinning.

Of course the flaw on yours could be somewhere else, so please indicate with an arrow at least where you differ.


Here is yours enlarged (assuming we are talking about the top right ´break`) ?
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This Michel listed plate error occurs on all 16 sheet types on field 98 of the 40 Pfg printing. This one happens to come from sheet type 1, the 'magenta' Mi.30a color variety. The Michel error is indicated by the green circle. Type 1 has the additional plate markings noted in the Arge AM Post 40 Pfg catalog. None of the other types have these two indicated with yellow circles.
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Good information 2 a.m.post.

Please indicate what the extra flaw is in the lower yellow circle. I see the dot in the other yellow circle.

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I will let you experts fight it out over Plate Flaws.

Meanwhile another Bizone Buildings cover:
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BIZONE Mi82,92,94

This is an Insured cover and postage calculated as follows: Regional Letter 150g:40Pf; Insured to value 1500DM:45Pf; Handling Charge for Insured Letter:60Pf. Total:145Pf.

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OldD. The printing (handwriting) on letter is very childlike?

I wonder who was in the letter?

Not an expert on flaws but have the books, well some of them, missing the advanced tome on Am and Br flaws obviously.

At least shades are an ever debatable problem via computer connections.

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johnrcrow wrote:
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OldD. The printing (handwriting) on letter is very childlike?

I wonder who was in the letter?
We think possibly an old person's writing. However the address is very limited! It is in fact just the front of the envelope- perhaps part of a bigger one?

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Ahoj OldD!

I was thinking Fa was Familie, but I now think it was Firma, because Degussa is a bank and gold dealer in Frankfurt. That would make sense as a destination for a letter of value and an address that would be well-known without elaborate detail.

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Thanks for that honza. That certainly makes sense!

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DJCMH wrote:
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Germany will be issuing a stamp on 3 September 2020 to commemorate the 75th Anniversary of the issuing of the first Allied Military Government Stamps in occupied Germany.
Thanks again for this info. Have now received the rather nice official FDC:

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Although titled "Bizone" I have included those issues produced specifically for West Berlin, up to the formation of the BRD.

Here is a cover from the last overprinted series, which I showed earlier in the thread:

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BERLIN Mi66

I recently noticed that on the reverse some of the value tabs had been used to secure the envelope. Since this is a 20Pf overprint on an 80Pf Trizone stamp the values tabs have also been overprinted!

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Have been on the lookout for a Postal Stationery 20Pf card (at a reasonable price!) for some time. I was lucky enough to win this one recently. This is the return half of an International Reply Card.

Date: 19.10.49
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The message is in Czech!

Is that a very faint Czech censor mark?

They look like this:
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Just received this Registered Express Regional letter. Postage is 40Pf (Express);30Pf (Registered);12Pf (Regional Letter) giving a total of 82Pf. Since the date was 28th Feb.1946 (not a Leap Year), posted a day later it would have cost twice as much!

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BIZONE Mi5

Reverse:
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BIZONE Mi3,5

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Nice!

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Thanks, 2 a.m.post. For a similar cover from after the rate increase (Trizone) see:
"Allied Occupied Germany Postal Rates 1945/1949-Illustrated"
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johnrcrow wrote:
18 Oct 2018 02:17
Here is a great flaw on NHM Mi.34, 80Pf.

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Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection
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Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection.
Nice corner piece to have with incomplete horizontal perforation rows.

Fewer than 1 million of the 80 Pfg issue were printed compared to 109 million for the 6 Pfg value.

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2 a.m.post wrote:
31 Oct 2020 10:51
Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection.
Nice corner piece to have with incomplete horizontal perforation rows.

Fewer than 1 million of the 80 Pfg issue were printed compared to 109 million for the 6 Pfg value.
That is indeed a very big difference, but still, 1 million is quite a lot

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The higher value AM stamps are particularly scarce used- as mentioned previously there appeared to be speculation in these stamps, (and the German printing 8Pf for some reason), at the time.

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