Guess and Get One - New give away game

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 07 Oct 2020 14:49

Any guesses?

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 08 Oct 2020 00:43

Was it issued by New Zealand?

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 08 Oct 2020 01:00

No, not New Zealand.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 08 Oct 2020 01:04

Another peek at the photo of part of the stamp (shown on the previous page.)

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 08 Oct 2020 17:50

Is it from the Ross Dependency?

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 08 Oct 2020 19:18

No, I rather think short pants are seldom worn in that chilly part of the planet!

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 08 Oct 2020 23:53

Brrr, can't think of that!

How about a nation currently under French administration?

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 09 Oct 2020 02:00

There are some die-hard shorts wearers, but when you said there was some connection to NZ, I was stumped there!

How about Tokelau for a try ('scuse the pun)?

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 09 Oct 2020 03:32

RogerE wrote: ↑
08 Oct 2020 23:53
Brrr, can't think of that!

How about a nation currently under French administration?

No, not a French-ruled land.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 09 Oct 2020 03:33

Catweazle wrote: ↑
09 Oct 2020 02:00
There are some die-hard shorts wearers, but when you said there was some connection to NZ, I was stumped there!

How about Tokelau for a try ('scuse the pun)?

No, not Tokelau, but you are close!

Ubobo.R.O. · Post by **Ubobo.R.O.** » 10 Oct 2020 01:07

Hey Catweazel. Try a country that brought out funny shaped stamps.

turtle-bienhoa · Post by **turtle-bienhoa** » 10 Oct 2020 02:20

I have found the stamp, but because I'm not participating, I won't post it here.
Hint: It is issued sometime in the 90s.

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 10 Oct 2020 02:46

Aaahh, the helpful hints are coming from all over — from observant bystanders...

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 11 Oct 2020 01:21

Despite the helpful hints, and one "warm" guess, we don't seem to be any closer!

Gosh, where ever am I from?

turtle-bienhoa · Post by **turtle-bienhoa** » 11 Oct 2020 02:18

2nd hint: Issued by a country that once had a match with New Zealand in the sport depicted.

vicaf60 · Post by **vicaf60** » 11 Oct 2020 04:02

Does the country name begin with S?

Clapas · Post by **Clapas** » 11 Oct 2020 04:08

Tonga ?

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 11 Oct 2020 10:17

The crystal ball predicts that clapas is on the money

Question for clapas: with your footnote about "temporary cancellation from 1957", is the crystal ball right to suggest that you mean "postally used and date stamped in 1957" ?

/Un ami

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 11 Oct 2020 12:08

vicaf60 wrote: ↑
11 Oct 2020 04:02
Does the country name begin with S?

Yes.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 11 Oct 2020 12:09

Clapas wrote: ↑
11 Oct 2020 04:08
Tonga ?

No.

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 11 Oct 2020 12:46

Hmmm, crystal ball was misled by "Try a country that brought out funny shaped stamps."

Apparently moa = chicken, as well as the giant extinct bird of Aotearoa...

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 11 Oct 2020 14:20

Apparently Western Samoa once had relations with New Zealand.

That would have been my next guess after Tokelau.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 11 Oct 2020 14:42

Yes, you are correct that the country is SAMOA.

Now it should be easy to identify the stamp! (For rugby fans, the jersey colours give it away: black is the New Zealand team colour, and blue is the Samoa team colour.)

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 11 Oct 2020 17:26

RogerE wrote: ↑
11 Oct 2020 12:46
Hmmm, crystal ball was misled by "Try a country that brought out funny shaped stamps."

Apparently moa = chicken, as well as the giant extinct bird of Aotearoa...

Yes, the name "Samoa" comes from this usage, and means "sacred chickens". It derives from a traditional tale from the country:

McKay Fale located in Sauniatu, Samoa wrote:Lu of Uafato

This legend gives us insight into how the word, “SA-MOA” originated.

Uafato is a lovely, remote village located near Fagaloa. Uafato was the home of Lu. It had an ocean full of fish, and a picturesque and lovely waterfall on the central mountain peak with four mountainous peaks on each side of the gorgeous waterfall.

At the bottom of the fall was a beautiful pool which was divided into two sections. One section was for the village water supply and the other was a place to swim and bathe. In Polynesian religion, there are 9 heavens. Each one arched above the former one. The common people can go into the first heaven. The higher the ranking of a person, the higher he can go in the heavens. Tagaloalagi, who is the supreme God, lives in the tenth heaven. No one else is allowed to go there.

The lovely paradise of Uafato was ruled by a high chief named Lu. He was a great hunter, a skillful fisherman, and a superb farmer. He had a large flock of chickens which were taboo to the people of Uafato. These chickens Lu called his sacred (Sa) chickens (Moa). These became known as Lu’s Samoa.

While Lu was away fishing in the bay, some of Tagaloalagi’s men came down from the tenth heaven to visit their relatives. They were envious of Lu’s sacred chickens and decided to steal some of them. When Lu heard his chickens cackling and flying about to escape the raiders, he turned his canoe around and came ashore.

Lu picked up his “fue” (fly whisk with a large handle) which he used as a hammer. He gathered an army and slowly but furiously drove Tagaloalagi’s men back from the first heaven to the second heaven, to third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh heaven.

When Lu reached the eighth heaven Tagaloalagi could see that his men were going to be killed. So Tagaloalagi got his daughter, Lagi, and laid her on the peak of the eighth heaven. When Lu saw this gorgeous creature he immediately married her. His wrath was appeased. He forgave Tagaloalagi’s men for their mischievousness.

Lu took the lovely maiden and changed her name to Lagituaiva – the lovely maiden of the ninth heaven. On the west side Uafato Bay is the only place in Samoa where all ten heavens can be seen as you look at the mountains.

The tale of Lu and the sacred chickens was featured on a Samoan stamp, so I am familiar with this. But couldn't comment earlier until the contestants had established which country we are seeking here.

Samoa 1971 Legends of Old Samoa, 8 sene,
featuring Lu and his sacred chickens.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 13 Oct 2020 20:36

So any more guesses, or should I post a larger view?

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 13 Oct 2020 21:24

Hello Panterra. Yes, it looks as if a wider portion of the stamp image would be helpful.

As a"helpful" counter-example, I would say we can eliminate this set:

: Samoa 1994, Manu Samoa Rugby Team, set of 4

.

/RogerE

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 13 Oct 2020 21:40

You are very warm, Roger!

Notice how the team jerseys on the 95 sene stamp are the same as those in the stamp we seek?

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 14 Oct 2020 00:15

Warm perhaps, but still no solution

Here is another non-solution

: Samoa, 1993, World Cup Seven-a-side Rugby, set of four, MUH

Yes, a larger pic of the mystery stamp, please Panterra...

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 14 Oct 2020 01:14

Samoa 1995 Rugby Union World Cup Finals, South Africa.

The stamps is the $1 ?

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 14 Oct 2020 01:16

Here is a rather larger view of the stamp.
I'm sure you will guess it easily now that you have eliminated the other possible candidates.

So we now have established that this is a SAMOA stamp. But which value? And which set is it from?

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 14 Oct 2020 01:22

Elkra wrote: ↑
14 Oct 2020 01:14
Samoa 1995 Rugby Union World Cup Finals, South Africa.

The stamps is the $1 ?

CORRECT! Elkra is the winner.

Please email me your address so I can send your prize. And it is now your turn to pose a challenge. (See the first post for details.)

The mystery stamp -- SOLVED by Elkra!

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 14 Oct 2020 10:26

Good work Elkra! I failed to find an image of this stamp when I was searching...

/RogerE

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 16 Oct 2020 22:00

Apologies people, I had to check the Rules so as not to make an idiot of myself.

Here is my offering;

Good Luck.
John

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 16 Oct 2020 22:02

Is it from Europe?

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 16 Oct 2020 22:12

Yes from Europe.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 16 Oct 2020 22:21

France?

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 16 Oct 2020 22:42

Not France.

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 16 Oct 2020 23:08

Is 1995 the year of issue?

/RogerE

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 16 Oct 2020 23:30

1995 is correct.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 17 Oct 2020 04:39

Netherlands?

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 17 Oct 2020 04:58

Not Netherlands Bruce.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 17 Oct 2020 04:59

Luxembourg?

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 17 Oct 2020 05:09

Hmmmm, reading signature profiles is always informative

but not Luxembourg.

However, keep reading the signature Bruce.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 17 Oct 2020 21:21

Eire?

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 18 Oct 2020 02:17

Not Eire.

Panterra · Post by **Panterra** » 18 Oct 2020 17:05

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 19 Oct 2020 02:00

Not GB.

zemstvo · Post by **zemstvo** » 19 Oct 2020 06:11

1995 Faroe Islands Church stamp set

RogerE · Post by **RogerE** » 19 Oct 2020 19:04

Aaahh, good work zemstvo — I didn't think of the Faroes!

/RogerE

Elkra · Post by **Elkra** » 19 Oct 2020 21:48

zemstvo wrote: ↑
19 Oct 2020 06:11
1995 Faroe Islands Church stamp set

Correct zemstvo.

Please send me your mail address and I will get your Prize in the mail this week.

There might be a slight delay however as we are expecting a huge increase in Covid related Restrictions to be announced this afternoon.

John