NZ 1901-1909 "Penny Universal" stamp, detailed Tutorial

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DK wrote: 23 Jun 2020 13:06 I would concur with Slayer on the evidence shown.

But another clue is the small line from the left pearl to the edge of the stamp found on some 'Royles' (but not all) - as seen in the 1st stamp of the block above.


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Then it is down to shade - Rose-carmine SG356 or Bright Rose-carmine SG356b

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My eyesight clearly needs testing- I was looking for a line and couldn't see one! The line is another Royle trait :)

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Wonderful, thanks both.

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pertinax wrote: 23 Jun 2020 19:02 .

Wonderful, thanks both.

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It's a lovely, fresh block though. Colours are really vibrant. :)
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Hi All

Good news. Although I haven't spoken to Roly yet, I have found that he has his 'Penny Universal' site and soon to be 'Dominion' site hosted here :

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/home

So give it a try and see how you go.

I am guessing he has let his domain go due to costs :roll:

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Also,
I will see if I can find a better example of the 'Royle' print too 'Slayer'. To show the line 'from left pearl to edge of stamp' a bit better. The example above in Pertinax's example is a weak one. Stay tuned

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Not much better but here is another one ...
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This is a late one as shown by the datestamp of 1909. I will continue to search for a much clearer example, perhaps from 1906-07 if I can.

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Booklet stamps

This is an example of a pane from the original booklet where the panes came from sheet stamps. Note the staple holes in the binding selvedge.

This example came from an 'old-time' collection. Normally these are only seen in the original booklets.

NZ 1d Universal original booklet pane
NZ 1d Universal original booklet pane

Special plates were then made for the booklets. These have imperf edges.

NZ 1d Universal booklet pane
NZ 1d Universal booklet pane

The binding selvedge can be at the top or bottom.

Again notice the staple holes. These can show rusting from the metal staples.

NZ 1d Universal booklet pane 1
NZ 1d Universal booklet pane 1
In this case the '17' represents the plating position.

These are more of these, let me know if they need to be posted
The booklet stamps [with wide imperf margins] can be seen on covers.

This example from the lottery mails has a Hobart backstamp.

3.2 MB 	<br />NZ 1d Universal booklet stamp cover
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DK wrote: 26 Jun 2020 10:19 Hi All

Good news. Although I haven't spoken to Roly yet, I have found that he has his 'Penny Universal' site and soon to be 'Dominion' site hosted here :

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/home

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/home/universals

So give it a try and see how you go.

I am guessing he has let his domain go due to costs :roll:

Dave

Yes $10 a year to renew a basic domain is a very tough call for some. A beer costs that. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Seems like no-one there on the new one, except the Crickets -

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/system/app/pages/recentChanges
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Global Administrator wrote: 27 Jun 2020 15:54 Yes $10 a year to renew a basic domain is a very tough call for some. A beer costs that. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Seems like no-one there on the new one, except the Crickets -

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/system/app/pages/recentChanges
I came across that Google site by chance upon a search. I am not sure what has happened to Roly but hope he is ok.

He is a very pleasant fellow

Hopefully there is still some useful info on there for those that want it.

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DK wrote: 26 Jun 2020 10:19 Hi All

Good news. Although I haven't spoken to Roly yet, I have found that he has his 'Penny Universal' site and soon to be 'Dominion' site hosted here :

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/home

https://sites.google.com/site/stamps4you2/home/universals

So give it a try and see how you go.

I am guessing he has let his domain go due to costs :roll:

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Thanks Dave

Still an excellent reference site for anyone who has a liking or passing interest in the Penny Universal.

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Hi everyone
Just new to Stampboards but saw these posting on the 1d Universal and just had to post these images:

The paper must have ripped during printing or even perforating. Then a repair was done to the rip and then a repair to the miss perforations (p14) and then reperfed p11. 1902 printing on Cowan watermarked paper.
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Also I have a couple of block that have a number top right of the sheet. The highest number I have is a reserve plate 1d Universal numbered 2771819. I presume that the number is the number of sheets printed, but would that be of just 1d Universals or any sheets of stamps printed at that time? Can anyone clarify what the number means please.
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It is indeed the sheet number
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Thanks Slayer but that doesn't quite answer my question.

Yes it is the sheet number - But

Is it the number of 1d universals sheets printed at that time - or
Is it the number of any sheet of stamps that had been printed at that time.

There were other stamps printed at the same time of different issues or denomination. In my write up for this block I'd like to say that the number represents the number of 1d Universal sheets printed at that time. But that could be inaccurate. Thus I need clarification.
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Bruce From Auckland wrote: 08 Sep 2021 13:03 Thanks Slayer but that doesn't quite answer my question.

Yes it is the sheet number - But

Is it the number of 1d universals sheets printed at that time - or
Is it the number of any sheet of stamps that had been printed at that time.

There were other stamps printed at the same time of different issues or denomination. In my write up for this block I'd like to say that the number represents the number of 1d Universal sheets printed at that time. But that could be inaccurate. Thus I need clarification.
It is the sheet number for that particular sheet in the Penny Universal series? Sheets were printed in blocks of 240 stamps (10 rows of 24). There will have been a fair few number of sheets- the London print alone had over 2 million stamps shipped in to New Zealand.

Different printers didn't keep a tally of their (and each others) print runs to make sure they were consecutive. This is the sheet number in the Penny Universal printing.
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Bruce From Auckland wrote: 08 Sep 2021 13:03 Thanks Slayer but that doesn't quite answer my question.

Yes it is the sheet number - But

Is it the number of 1d universals sheets printed at that time - or
Is it the number of any sheet of stamps that had been printed at that time.

There were other stamps printed at the same time of different issues or denomination. In my write up for this block I'd like to say that the number represents the number of 1d Universal sheets printed at that time. But that could be inaccurate. Thus I need clarification.
The sheet numbers appeared as a security measure and were located in the corners of the sheet, relative to the watermark orientation. They were applied by the paper manufacturer. When the paper had 240 watermark impressions but sheets of 120 were printed, the printing office at the GPO applied another number on the sheet guillotined off.

While the numbers did not relate to the numbers of stamps printed, each printing batch used consecutively numbered sheets.
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Can someone here please comment on the "larger" stamp?
I can not identify the year/ print of the larger 1 Penny

Sorry about the average picture.
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Looks like a Dot plate

4 O Clock flaw on top right
Absent pearl at top left
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Added this to stock today.

NZ 1901 1d Universal Complete Booklet pane most MUH SG $550 - $175

First one of these I’ve had for 25 years. Very scarce. Perf 14, with mega margins, and normal small staple holes top margin. Lower 2 stamps very LH other 4 stamps all fresh MUH.

Way fresher than most stuff from this era, of 120 years back now. The super rare booklets these come from, are cat £1,800 to £2,750 and hence near unbuyable for most collectors.

SG 303b, £275=$A550. (Stock 826LQ)
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Another cool NZ 1d Universal item added to stock. :mrgreen:


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NIUE 1914 Registered cover to UK - with VERY sexy franking! Wonderful range of franking, and all with neat NIUE cds of ‘6 MY - 14’. Even has the blank Registered label with the MUTE i.e undated Niue cds to identify it. 8-)

Backstamped in New Zealand with superb and clear transit cds of ‘AUCKLAND 2 JUNE - 14’ and ‘Registered London’ arrival cds of ‘7 JY - 14’. In 45 years of dealing have only seen 2 or 3 WWI era covers from this very speck - they are SCARCE. And never with cool franking like this one. :D

To Geo. Richardson, 74 Tulse Hill, London, with very sexy franking from SG #2 onwards, to 1/- top value (SG 16, cat £150 on cover) and the 1d Universal strip has the central unit clearly showing the 'No Stop After PENI’ constant error, SG 9c, cat £570 = $A1,100 on cover as a SINGLE! That stamp also has an apparent retouch or re-entry through letter 'O' of ONE etc as can be seen.

Miles better condition than anything 108 years old from this region. Bought very well in an Estate to sell fast - a clearly UNIQUE cover, yet out it goes at $A150 - LESS than the price I sell last year's Australia Post Annual Stamp Album for - quite insane. What will THAT be worth in 10 year’s time??!! (Stock 357DK)
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