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samwells-covers asking £49,995 for a defective QV Falklands stamp

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Samwells-covers are asking £49,995 for a corner QV 1 Penny brownish claret that has had two sides of perferations trimmed off, and is creased.

They think they have found an unlisted variety, but they have neither had the stamp certified nor had an expert opinion. I have asked an expert regarding this stamp, and he confirms my opinion that it is a trimmed stamp.

This stamp is located in the right hand corner of the sheet and thus originally had two imperforate sides.

Samwells-covers also have the audacity to refer to the stamp as 'SG.8var', as if that is some sort of official listing.
A very fine used SG8 has a CV of £35. What is one that has had 28 perforations trimmed off and is creased worth?

If samwells-covers think they have something unique then it is surely the act of a responsible seller to substantiate their claims before putting it up for sale.

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Here is an example of a 4 Pence stamp with two sides imperforate, which what the samwells-covers' stamp should look like.
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£49,995 is a huge amount for a stamp, and what makes this listing even more dangerous is that samwells-covers sell genuine covers and stamps, are well established and well regarded.
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Have you contacted them and given them a chance to withdraw the item?
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I have contacted them stating my concerns and have included the image of the 4 pence stamp. They have replied with an ambiguous and prevaricate answer, effectively disputing my issue. This is part of their reply:

"My comment is that the stamp in your image is that it is simply not large enough (if trimmed) to be capable of providing an imperforate of the size of that featured in our listing."

It does not matter whether my particular stamp can be trimmed to exactly how their stamp is. It was simply there to illustrate what a non defective stamp should look like. Who every trimmed the stamp obviously found one that was very badly centred.
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Post by Lakatoi 4 »

Describing something as “Unique”, particularly applied to a totally imperforate stamp when the issue is perforated and when there’s nothing similar in the philatelic literature is pretty adventurous.

Perhaps it might have a chance at 10% of the price stated but even then, without a certificate from a recognised expert committee such as the RPSL, I doubt it will sell at all.

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Dead straight margin at top and right, apparently undulating margin at foot and possibly slightly "fluffy" at left.

I personally wouldn't put money on Samwell's explanation given that it would only take a fractional shift of the impression on the paper and/or positioning of the vertical perforations to leave enough space for a "trim".
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I sold a similar item a few years ago:
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My description was "Queen Victoria unwatermarked 4d grey-black used. From sheet corner with perfs trimmed off on two sides. Quirky item, but unfortunate as would have been a nice example otherwise."

Which I think was a fair and correct description. It sold well, for a sensible price which was around 1/500th of £49995.
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iaincraven wrote: 16 Aug 2022 08:54 I sold a similar item a few years ago:

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My description was "Queen Victoria unwatermarked 4d grey-black used. From sheet corner with perfs trimmed off on two sides. Quirky item, but unfortunate as would have been a nice example otherwise."

Which I think was a fair and correct description. It sold well, for a sensible price which was around 1/500th of £49995.

Kudos. Sounds like a good result for an honest assessment of what you're looking at.

Just as "classic" forgeries will sell well enough if described as such, up front.
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Just another ebay scam listing to attract Bunnies. Many corner copies of these QV issues had big margins .... this is for sale now as a normal mint stamp - snip, snip - and an EBAY IMPERF. :roll: :roll:
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If I had been asked about this stamp without any other detail, I would have suggested that I can see at least 2 lower curves of trimmed perfs at the top left.

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Here is the Ebay link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144104992026

and here is the eBay item number: 144104992026
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Is this what's left of the perforations?

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Number-O-Ne wrote: 17 Aug 2022 02:27 Is this what's left of the perforations?


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I thought exactly the same thing and I'm no expert.
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