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Share your interesting War and special Medal Groups etc

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I thought I would start a thread that may interest some people that would display a medal group plus a short description about the group. I will attempt to add a new group each week if members are interested.

This week's group is to a British Captain A.V. Sellars, who went to the Boer War in 1899 as a Civilian Veterinary Surgeon and served in the Army Veterinary Corps in WW1 from 1915 - 1918 as a Captain.
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Great ides for a new thread Phil.

A suggestion - as google cannot 'see' writing on images, (especially as you have cropped off the RH side of your image!) be a very good idea to type the medals and bars into text. Then they will be google indexed for posterity here. :)

His left-hand medal I can see has many specific Boer War campaign bars etc.

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The medals from left to right are
1. The Queens South Africa Medal with five claps:
A. South Africa 1902
B. South Africa 1901
C. Transvaal
D. Orange Free State, &
E. Cape Colony.

2. 1914-15 Star
3. British War Medal, &
4. Victory Medal.

The clasps on the QSA are campaign clasps which consisted of "skirmish" type actions. There are other bars which are "Battle Bars' which are for serious actions. The last three medals were awarded for World War One. This man survived two wars, including the Boer War when horses and oxen were the only form of transport. In World War One, much of the transport was still horse powered. The Vet. surgeons were truly an important part of the Army and should be remembered for their services they performed. The British Army still has a Veterinary Corps today.
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Interesting War Medal Groups US Vietnam War

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Sergeant Robert Hook was a member of the U S Army’s 101st Airborne Division. He was a true combat soldier who spent endless weeks patrolling and looking for his North Vietnamese enemies. After given some time off, he offered to join another platoon that was led by a friend of his. While out on this activity, the Platoon was ambushed by members of the ever alert North Vietnamese Army (NVA).

The American platoon was pinned down by NVA machine gun fire, when Sergeant Hook made a rush at the machine gun. As he neared the gun, he was struck in the neck by a rocket propelled grenade, and mortally wounded.

For his gallantry, Sgt Hook was posthumously awarded the U S Army’s second highest gallantry award – the Silver Star. Sgt Hook was taken back to Texas where he was buried with full military honours. His name appears on the Washington DC Vietnam War Wall of Remembrance with the names of 50,000 other U S Servicemen who died in that conflict.


Surname HOOK
Given Names Robert
Title/Rank Sergeant
Unit 101st Airborne Division
Country United States of America Army


Date of Birth: 1948
Place of Birth Dallas Texas USA
Date of Death 1969
Place of Death South Vietnam
CASUALTY: Killed In Action

LIST of AWARDS
MEDAL 1 Silver Star
MEDAL 2 Bronze Star with Oak Leaf Cluster
MEDAL 3 Air Medal
MEDAL 4 Army Commendation Medal
MEDAL 5 Purple Heart
MEDAL 6 Good conduct Medal
MEDAL 7 National Defense Service Medal
MEDAL 8 Vietnam Service medal with 3 stars
MEDAL 9 Combat Infantry Badge
MEDAL 10 Rep of Vietnam Campaign Ribbon
MEDAL 11 Viet Gallantry Cross with palm
MEDAL 12 Vietnam Military Merit Medal
MEDAL 13 Viet. Campaign Star & 1960 clasp
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In 1914 my grandfather was 37 years old when he as called to serve in World War I.

He received the following medals for his service. (Germany)

1. The Iron Cross
2. Wuertenberg Tapferkeit (for bravery)
3. Hindenburg Cross (issued to WWI veterans)
4. Verwundeten medal (for war wounds)
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - NZ WW2

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Surname JONES

Given Names Bernard.

Title/Rank Major, Acting Lt. Colonel

Unit 23rd NZ Infantry Battalion


Major Bernard Jones was born in September 1912 at Tinaru in New Zealand. He lived in the Otago region and was a successful student. He attended University and qualified as a solicitor being employed as a law clerk. 1939 seen WW2 begin, and Mr. Jones enlisting in the New Zealand Army. During this time before the war Mr Jones had done militia service reaching the rank of Sergeant in the Infantry.

Promotion was rapid, and he was promoted to Lance Corporal in January 1940 and Temporary Sergeant two weeks later. In March, 1940, Bernard Jones was promoted to 2nd. Lieutenant. By September 1940, he had been promoted to Substantive Lieutenant. And posted to Tonga and Fiji on garrison duties. During this Time Lieutenant Jones was promoted to Captain.

1943 now sees promotion to Major, various battle efficiency and Infantry Officers courses, and a posting to North Africa as part of a New Zealand Brigade in the 8th. Army. After North Africa, the invasion of Italy takes place. Allied progress up the “boot” of Italy had ground to a halt during the winter of 1943–44,  was halted  by the Nazis’ Gustav Line which included the towering hill of Monte Casino which was topped by a monastery. The Allies were determined to capture this substantial building to gain control of the region..

Major Jones was posted as the Officer Commanding Bravo Company, 23rd Battalion. The Unit was involved in a vehicle convoy near Monte Casino when they were attacked by German Artillery on on 29 May, 1944. Unfortunately there were two fatalities in the attack with Major Jones being listed as killed in Action.


1 1939 - 45 Star
2 Africa Star with 8th Army Bar
3 Italy Star
4 Defence Medal
5 1939 - 45 War Medal
6 New Zealand Service Medal 39-45
7 New Zealand Memorial Cross

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b] Edith Violet BIRD[/b] Australian Army Nursing Service (WW1)

Place of birth Cairns, Queensland
Religion Church of England
Occupation Trained Nurse
Address Manly, New South Wales
Marital status Single
Age at embarkationn 33
Next of kin Mother, Mrs E Bird, Manly, New South Wales
Enlistment date June 1917
Rank on enlistment Staff Nurse
Unit name Nurses - 14th. Australian General Hospital Cairo, Egypt
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board
HMAT A55 Kyarra on 3 September 1917
Rank from Nominal Roll Sister
Unit from Nominal Roll Australian Army Nursing Service
(Medals and Awards)
British War medal, Victory Medal with
Recommendations Mention in Despatches emblem. (Oak leaf.)

The photo shows the Ambulance area of the 14th. Australian General Hospital Cairo, Egypt

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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups -Mini group to NSW Prisons

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Miniature NSW Correctional Services Group
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This is a miniature medal group as issued to a NSW Correctional Services Superintendent. A Superintendent is normally the Senior Commissioned Officer in charge of a Correctional Centre (prison).

Miniature Medals are worn with formal evening wear (eg. Mess Dress or dinner jacket or a gown for the ladies.) They should be exactly half the size of full size medals. The group is a Swing Mounted group which was done by Christies of Sydney.

The officers name was Michael Holt who was born in 1940, and joined the NSW Prisons in 1970.
He rose through the ranks from Prison Officer to Superintendent and retired in 2005 after 35 years service.

His medals are as follows:
Australian National Medal & Clasp
NSW Corrections Meritorious Service Medal with 25 year clasp
NSW Corrections Long Service Medal

Clasps are awarded for extra periods of service on Meritorious Service and Long Service Medals
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tacomabob wrote: 03 Apr 2023 03:35 In 1914 my grandfather was 37 years old when he as called to serve in World War I.

He received the following medals for his service. (Germany)

1. The Iron Cross
2. Wuertenberg Tapferkeit (for bravery)
3. Hindenburg Cross (issued to WWI veterans)
4. Verwundeten medal (for war wounds)

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Below is a photograph of my grandfather in the hospital.(arrow)
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Very cool -- does anyone know what the British Equivalent of the Iron Cross was? Was a pretty hard to get medal as I recall?
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I think it was like the British Military Medal. There were two classes. The second class was reasonably easy to get, but the first class was really hard. Hence today they are rare and expensive.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - K C B cased

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Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath
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Today, I am deviating a little by not showing a medal group, but a cased order, being The Most Honourable Order of the Bath. It is a British order of chivalry founded by King George I on 18 May 1725. The name derives from the elaborate medieval ceremony for appointing a knight, of which bathing (as a symbol of purification) was an element. Knights so created were known as "Knights of the Bath". George I erected the Knights of the Bath into a regular “Military Order". and later a civil order was created.
This example is a Civil Order, in its original fitted case. It was minted in 1894 by by the jewellers, Garrards of London. The case contains the set of two items: K C B Neck Badge and the K C B breast Badge.

The Order consists of the Sovereign (currently King Charles III), the Great Master (currently vacant) and three Classes of members:
Knight Grand Cross (GCB) or Dame Grand Cross (GCB),
[Knight Commander (KCB[/b]) or Dame Commander (DCB)
Companion (CB)

Members belong to either the Civil or the Military Division. Knight Companion (KB), the order's only class prior to 1815, is no longer an option. Recipients of the Order are now usually senior military officers or senior civil servants. Commonwealth citizens who are not subjects of the British monarch and foreign nationals may be made Honorary Members.

The Order of the Bath is the fourth-most senior of the British Orders of Chivalry, after The Most Noble Order of the Garter, The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, and The Most Illustrious Order of St Patrick .

I would like to acknowledge Wikimedia for much of this information.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups- Outstanding RAF Mini Group of 14

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Un-attributed miniature group awarded to a high ranking R A F Officer.
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Todays Group is another un-attributed miniature group awarded to a high ranking R A F Officer.
Even though we have not got the name of the recipient, with some research it could be narrowed down to few possible people. The medals came in a in Jewellers case from Norman Griffin Jewellers of Footscray. The group was court mounted and the awards indicate an illustrious and long career. Please note that a “bar” denotes a second award.
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His medals were as follows in order fram Left to right

Distinguished Service Order ( DSO) & Bar awarded twice for bravery or leadership for
by Senior Officers
Distinguished Flying Cross & Bar awarded twice for bravery or leadership for
by Junior Officers)
Distinguished Flying Medal (awarded for bravery by an Airman or NCO)

1939 - 45 Star 6 Months active Service against the eneny

Air Crew Europe with France & Germany Clasp ( Member of Bomber Command)

Burma Star Active service against Japan in Burma

Defence Medal Awarded for service in areas of being bombed

War Medal with “MID” For 28 days service in WW2. An Oakleaf or
Mentioned in dispatches depicts valuable service

Queen’s Korea Medal Active service in the Korean War (1950 - 52)

United Nations Korea Medal Awarded by UNO for service in Korea

Campaign Service Medal Active service in the Malayan Conflict

Queens Coronation Meal 1953 QE2 Coronation Award

Air Efficiency Award Awarded to RAF Reserve members for Long Service

Distinguished Flying Cross (USA) Awarded by USA likely in Korean Conflict or WW2
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1 Had an Australian connection (Australian medal mounter)
2 Joined the RAF as an airman
3 Sent to Bomber Command in Great Britain.
4 Promoted to become a junior Commissioned Officer
5. Promoted to become a Senior Commissioned Officer such as Wing commander or group Captain
6, Decorated for Gallantry & Leadership on SIX Occasions.
7 The Air Efficiency Award tells us of at least ten years service including Korea and South East Asia.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups Miss Emily Weller R.V.M

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Miss Emily Weller R.V.M. - United Kingdom
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Miss Emily Weller is the recipient of this unusual group of medals, She was emplyed by the royal Family and her last official position was Dresser and Lady’s Maid to her Majesty Queen Mary in the 1939 British Census. Queen Mary was our current monarch, King Charles III’s Grandmother.

The medals awarded to this lady were as follows (from Top left to right bottom)

Royal Victorian Medal (1943)
KGV Coronation Medal (1910)
GV Jubilee Medal (1935)
KGVI Coronation Medal (1937)
Royal Household Long Service Medal (1928) with 30 year Clasp. (1938)

Emily was born in Surrey, England in 1884. She gained employment in the Royal housold 1n 1908.
She would have worked in several different Palaces as she was part of Queen Mary’s peronal
staff. In the special census of 1939, HM Queen Mary was at Badmington House in Gloustershire (Without king George VI) but with her staff including Emily Weller .

The Royal Victorian Medal is the lowest level of the Royal Victorian Order (Highest level is the Grand Knight Cross of the Victorian Order) and all levels are given by the discretion of the ruling monarch (King George VI at that time)

The King George V Coronation Medal - King George V Jubilee Medal - the King George VI
Coronation Medal are all official commemoration medals awarded to people that are connected to the celebrations or nominated by Governments, and are quite common.

Her Royal Household Long Service Medal was awarded in 1928 for twenty years of diligent service and ten years later she was awarded a thirty year clasp. On a personal note, Emily married James Copple and retired in 1945, aged 61 years James was a House Steward in the Royal Household. I have found that Emily pased away in 1965 at Berkshire, England, aged 81 years.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups WW2 Double Issue

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World War Two Group with a Double Issue to Mr J. Bloom

This is a common World War Group with the Following medals: (from L to R)
but the double issue of the Australian Service Medal 1939-45 (A S M) makes the group unusual.
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Pacific Star
39 - 45 War Medal
Australian Service Medal 1939 -45 (RAAF Issue)
Australian Service Medal 1939 -45 (Army Issue).

Mr. John Bloom was obviously a man looking for action. He was born in Liverpool, England in 1907 and had immigrated to Australia as a young man. 1940 seen him enlisting in the RAAF with the rank of Air-craftsman.
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He stayed with RAAF for nearly three years which entitled him to the
39 - 45 War Medal, and
the A S M

In 1943, John must have been bored and requested his discharge from the RAAF and enlisted the Army and part of the 2nd. AIF.
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At the end of 1944, John was finally granted his wish. He was shipped off to New Guinea and the Pacific Islands at the end of 1944. He qualified for his Pacific Star by his operational service. Another medal - the 1939 - 45 Star was awarded for spending six months in active service, but John did not qualify. He qualified for the 1939 - 45 War Medal because only 28 days of duty was required in any Service . These medals were designed and produced in Great Britain and were both issued within a couple of years of the end of the War.

The A S M was designed and made in Australia and issued in the 1950's. John received one ASM from the RAAF with his RAAF service number. as they were unlikely to have known about his Army service. The Army would have thought that the issue of the Medal was their responsibility so they sent another one out with his Army number on it.

John left the Army, and settled in Adelaide where he passed away in 1965.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups-Miniature Aussie 1960's Group

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Miniature Aussie 1960's Group




Tomorrow is ANZAC Day. This is the day that Aussies and Kiwis remember the soldiers of the past, and this group is very typical of the 1950 - 60's service of the Infantry soldiers of the Royal Australia Regiment.
I have no idea who earned these medals as miniatures are un-named. They are:

Queen's Korea medal (1950 - 1953)
United Nation Medal (1950 - 1954)
General Service medal with clasp "Malaya" QE2 (1955-1962)
Queen's Vietnam medal (1962-1972)
South Vietnam Star (1962-1972)

I believe that qualifying time for all these medals was only one day of active service except for the South Vietnam Star which was six months service in South Vietnam. I know for sure that a "tour" of Vietnam was one year, and I suspect that it may have been the same length of time for other areas post World War 2. Also keep in mind that a soldier may have done more than one trip to a war zone, but would receive one medal regardless.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups WW2 St Johns

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GEORGE FREDERICK WHITE - R A M C & ORDER OF St. JOHN

GEORGE FREDERICK WHITE was born in Lambeth near London in 1912. It appears George lived near London all of his life. In 1932 he joined the St John Ambulance Brigade and was a member for at least 45 years. He also joined the Royal Army medical Corps in the Territorial Army.

This military service was mostly performed at the 217 London General hospital during World War Two. George married Margret Lamb in 1949 at Amersham in Buckinghamshire. George passed away in Kent, aged 80 years July 1992.
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His medal group consisted of the following awards:

Officer of the order of St John

Defence Medal

39-45 War Medal

Efficiency Medal

St John Service Medal with three Gilt Clasps



Officer of the order of St John
The Order of St. John, formerly known of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem, was constituted by Queen Victoria by Royal Charter on May 14, 1888. Membership of the Order is open to suitable candidates of any Christian faith who demonstrate the tenants of the Order by acting to prevent and relieve sickness and injury as well as to enhance the health and well-being of people anywhere in the world.
The Order is conferred in several grades with Officer being the lowest with Commander, Sub-Prelate,Dame or Knight of Grace, Dame or Knight of Justice, Bailiff or Dame Grand Cross above them.
Members are most often admitted at lower grades and later promoted to higher grades in recognition of dutiful service and good deeds. Membership of the Order is also limited to 35 000 members.

The Defence Medal
The Defence Medal awarded In the United Kingdom, and in territories overseas. Those eligible included military personnel working in headquarters, on training bases and air fields and civilians who were volunteers that were subjected to air attack or closely threatened during the Second World War.



War Medal 1939-45
The 1939-45 War Medal was instituted by King Georgi VI on August 16, 1945. The Silver Medal was awarded to all personnel of British and Common-wealth forces, along with some civilian units, in recognition of 28 days of either operational or non-operational full time service between September 3, 1939, and September 2, 1945.


The Efficiency Medal
The Efficiency Medal was a long service medal that replaced the ‘Territorial Efficiency Medal’ of 1921 and was awarded for 12 years of efficient service. Clasps were added for each additional 6 years service, and war service was counted as double.


St John Service Medal
The St John Service Medal was and is available only to volunteers who have completed 12 years of efficient service with bars awarded for every five years of efficient service thereafter. Efficient service is achieved by a volunteer by providing at least 60 hours of annual service to the community through their St John volunteering duties each calendar year.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups: New Zealand Cross

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New Zealand Cross, & the New Zealand Wars.
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The institution of the Victoria Cross in 1856 as the supreme award of the British Empire for gallantry left members of the Colonial possession's armed forces at something of a disadvantage, as the new Cross was only issued to members of the Imperial services. In New Zealand, where the New Zealand Wars had been raging since 1840 as the Maori tribes of the islands resisted the take-over of their communal lands,

This inequality provoked action on the part of the Governor-General, Sir George Bowen, who determined to issue a local equivalent to the VC. This was the New Zealand Cross, which was instituted in 1869, and in appearance is perhaps even more splendid than the Victoria Cross.

Perhaps as much because of this aesthetic one-up-man ship as any other reason, Bowen was criticised in the UK for usurping a royal prerogative, but Queen Victoria eventually ratified the award, and 23 awards were made in the period between 1869 and 1881. It was officially discontinued in 1910, when Colonial recipients were made eligible for the Victoria Cross.


The New Zealand Wars, sometimes called the Māori Wars, were a series of conflicts that took place in between 1845 and 1872. The wars were fought over a number of issues, most prominently Māori land being sold to the white settler population. The ”Treaty of Waitangi,” signed in 1840, guaranteed that individual Māori tribes should have undisturbed possession of their lands, forests, and fisheries.
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This example was produced for collectors in the 1960’s by the New Zealand mint and has “Replica” engraved on the rear of the Cross. This example is accompanied with its presentation case it was sold in
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - World war Two - A Naughty Soldier

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World war Two - A Naughty Soldier
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This group of Australian issued medals is a common combination awarded to many men in the three Services who enlisted in the latter part of the 1939 - 45 War. Troops were sent to New Guinea and later the Pacific islands to defend Australia against invasion from the Japanese. The medals are:
1939-45 Star
Pacific Star
1939 - 45 war Medal
1939 - 45 Australian Service Medal

We will refer to the recipient as Bill WOODS. I have changed his name for family reasons that you will soon discover why. Mr Woods came from Hobart in Tasmania where he was born in 1915. He was an enlistee in 1939 and proved not to be a great soldier. Things started going wrong in training when Bill went Absent without leave (AWOL).

He returned to his training and after some fuss completed his training and was posted to a Transport Unit. Another AWOL and this time was also charged for not disclosing a civil charge prior to enlistment. Bill was discharged and led out of the gate of his barracks in NSW. He went back to Tasmania, and promptly enlisted again in the Army. Amazingly he was accepted and back to a Water Transport Unit.

More charges including stealing his Commanding Officer’s motor bike occurred . This resulted in another trip before a Civil Court, another AWOL charge and another discharge. By now, one would think the Army would have wised up. Bill was sent back to Tasmania, enlisted using another name, and was selected to join an Infantry Battalion , which was promptly sent to New Guinea. Bill was there for about eighteen months and was well behaved whilst on Active Service with no charges at all.

It was time for Bill and his Unit to head back to Australia and all hell broke loose. More AWOL and civil charges occurred and a court martial was set up just for Private Woods. The Court Martial told Bill he was guilty, and to go to detention (Gaol) which did happen, but Bill escaped custody. In the end, after his capture, Bill served a 93 days custodial sentence. He was promptly discharged again for the last time. Bill never passed the rank of Private, but achieved the following during his Army career:

Bill enlisted 3 times and was discharged 3 times

12 x AWOL Charges,
1 escape from gaol
4 Civil charges, and
1 court martial with 93 days prison confinement.

In Bill’s favour he did perform his duties correctly while on active service, He went back to Hobart to live, and passed away in 1972.

Information was from the following sources:

Australian Archives,
Mostly Unsung,
Ancestry, and
Trove.
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kerema wrote: 02 May 2023 20:38

It was time for Bill and his Unit to head back to Australia and all hell broke loose. More AWOL and civil charges occurred and a court martial was set up just for Private Woods. The Court Martial told Bill he was guilty, and to go to detention (Gaol) which did happen, but Bill escaped custody. In the end, after his capture, Bill served a 93 days custodial sentence. He was promptly discharged again for the last time. Bill never passed the rank of Private, but achieved the following during his Army career:

Bill enlisted 3 times and was discharged 3 times

12 x AWOL Charges,
1 escape from gaol
4 Civil charges, and
1 court martial with 93 days prison confinement.

I am amazed such a loser got ANY medals of ANY kind.
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I am amazed such a loser got ANY medals of ANY kind.

But when on active service he performed his duties well.

There is a long history of men in the forces who misbehaved when in a barracks setting only to excel in an active war situation. The misbehaviour tends to come from boredom.
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - AIF: The WW1 Padre

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From British Infantry Officer to an AIF Padre
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John Calder was born in Aberdeen, Scotland on 1 May 1876. John came from a good Presbyterian family and he received a good education which included a Master of Arts and a Bachelor of Divinity. He was ordained in 1904, he married and was offered a position to become a minister in the Presbyterian Church in Scotland.
In 1913 the Presbyterian Church of NSW, Australia, offered John a position as a minister. He accepted the job and his wife, Euphemaia, his two children and he immigrated and settled in the Manse ( A Presbyterian Vicar’s abode) in Forbes, NSW.
It appears when World War 1 broke out and he went back to Britain and was commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the Royal Berkshire Regiment. Wearing that rank would mean that he was most likely an Infantry Officer. He was posted to the Western front in 1915 and some time later, attached to the 2nd. Scottish Garrison as a temporary Padre.
John must have been a busy man, because he transferred from the British Army and commissioned to a Padre’s position in 34th Battalion, Australian Imperial Force as a Captain in the beginning of 1917. John received the following Medals:
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1914 – 15 Star as a 2nd. Lieutenant from the British Army.
British war Medal as a Captain from the Australian Army.
Victory Medal with Oak Leaf from the Australian Army.

The Oak Leaf was awarded to him in 1919 for high standards of work. At the cease of hostilities, John returned back to Australia and his home where he continued his ministry. Next was a move to Wagga Wagga, NSW. He stayed there for several years and then headed for Sydney. A local Newspaper printed the following words about John in 1924 om his departure to Sydney.

REV. JOHN CALDER. FAREWELL GATHERING. WAGGA PAYS TRIBUTE
Last night the Masonic Hall was filled with people representing all the churches in Wagga. The occasion was a public farewell to the Rev. John Calder, of the St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, who leaves Wagga to day to take up his new charge of St. Peter's Presbyterian Church, North Sydney. All classes and creeds were represented and the many eulogistic speeches that were given, were striking testimony to the high esteem and affection that the general public of Wagga have for Mr Calder.

Rev Calder, his wife and children moved to North Sydney to take up that ministry in the Presbyterian Church. He stayed at North Sydney for over 38 years as the minister and in 1954 celebrated 50 years since being ordained. John’s wife passed away at Sydney in 1960 and he in 1962.


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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - WW2 RAAF K I A

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Flight Lieutenant Clifford Burges. 460 Squadron RAAF
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Clifford (Cliff) Burges was born in Auchenflower QLD, 6 April 1920. He was the only son of Henry Peter and Mary Margaret Burgess, of Nedlands, Western Australia. He enlisted in the RAAF , 11 November 1940 (at Perth WA) World War 2. Clifford must have has a good education as he was selected for pilot training as an officer.

After completing his training successfully he was posted to the Australian Bomber Unit - No. 460 Squadron, RAF Breighton, Yorkshire. During the next few years, Cliff was promoted to Flight Lieutenant, and was obviously very good at his duties and responsibilities.
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Cliff’s family received the following medals on Cliff’s behalf

1939-45 Star for 6 months active service

Air crew Europe Star for Allied Bomber personnel doing active service

Defence Medal for allied personnel subject to enemy bombing

War Medal for 28 days service in any Allied service

Australian Service Medal For 18 months service in the Australian Forces.


No. 460 Squadron is was first formed as a heavy bomber squadron during World War II on 15 November 1941 in England and disbanded on 10 October 1945 after seeing extensive combat over Europe. The squadron was a multinational unit, but most personnel were Australian. Cliff , being a pilot was also the Officer Commanding his Aircraft


In 1942 460 Squadron were flying the Vickers Wellington was a British twin-engined, long-range medium bomber. It was designed during the mid-1930s and was considered advanced for its time.One of the many targets bombed by 460 Squadron was Duisburg. It was bombed a number of times by the Allies during World War II. Duisburg was a major logistical centre in the Ruhr Area in Germany and location of chemical, steel and iron industries.


On the 26 July 1942, No. 460 Squadron Wellington (aircraft Z1399) was taking part in
Air Operations over Duisburg when disaster happened. The aircraft took off from RAF Station Breighton at 0030 hours on 26 July and then nothing was heard of the aircraft or crew.
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The aircraft was one of fifteen aircraft from the Squadron that took part in the raid. Post war it was established that the aircraft crashed near Duisberg, Germany.

Flight Lieutenant Clifford Henry Burgess (406344) (Pilot) Aged 22 Years
Sergeant James McPherson Milligan (1310076) (RAFVR) (Front Gunner)
Pilot Officer David Bruce Mills (407298) (Rear Gunner)
Flight Sergeant William Harrie Nettle (400330) (Observer)
Sergeant Donald Bagley (1109333) (RAFVR) (Wireless Operator Air Gunner)

All these Airman were buried: at Reichswald Forest War Cemetery,
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - Sgt Robert Thompson - Seaforths

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SERGEANT ROBERT THOMPSON - SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS

Robert Thompson was born in Stirlingshire, Scotland in the year 1857. Stirlingshire is geographically situated in the centre of the country. His parents were Robert (Senior) and Elizabeth (nee Snaddon) Thompson. Robert was one of seven children.

Robert started his working life as a coal miner, but in 1875 at the age of 18, Robert enlisted in the Seaforth Highlanders. He spent 30 years in the Army and attained the rank of Sergeant. His unit of enlistment was the Seaforth Highlanders where he spent his whole service. Robert spent five years on overseas service including India, Afghanistan, and Egypt.

The Duke of Albany’s) Ross-shire’s own Highland regiment has had a long and colourful history. It was raised by the Mackenzie of Seaforth family in 1788 and was originally numbered the 72nd and the 78th Highlanders which were amalgamated to form the 1st and 2nd Battalions, The main recruiting area for the regiments was in Ross-shire with three-quarters of the men coming from the
Ross-shire estates of the Mackenzie families.

Since then the regiment’s recruiting area has been expanded to include Caithness, Sutherland, Moray and Nairn. Throughout their history Lowlanders, Englishmen, Welsh and Irish have also served in the regiment.

Robert married Sarah Jane Wiseman on May 26, 1886. Their marriage produced three sons, and his service produced an impressive group of medals. They were from left to right
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Afghanistan Medal with Kandaha, Kabul, & Chaasia clasps. 1881
The Afghanistan Medal, sanctioned on 19 March 1881, was awarded to members of the British and Indian armies who served in Afghanistan between 1878 and 1880 during the Second Afghan War

Kabul, to Kandaha Star 1881
The medal is a bronze five-pointed star 62mm high and 48mm wide, suspended by the Imperial Crown. It was made from guns captured at the Battle of Kandahar.

Egypt Medal 1882 -1889
The Egypt Medal (1882–1889) was awarded for the military actions involving the British Army and Royal Navy during the 1882 Anglo-Egyptian War and in the Sudan Resentment at British and other European involvement in Egypt since the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869 triggered an Egyptian army mutiny that threatened the authority of the British-backed Khedive of Egypt, All recipients of the Egypt Medal were also eligible for one of the four versions of the Khedive's Star

Khedive’s Star and Tel Eb Kibir clasp 1882, was a campaign medal established by Khedive Tewfik Pasha to reward those who had participated in the military campaigns in Egypt and Sudan between 1882 and 1891. plus

Long Service & Good Medal . 1893
The Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal was instituted by King William IV in 1830. The medal remained in use for 100 years, until it was replaced by the Medal for Long Service and Good Conduct (Military) in 1930.

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In 1901 Robert had returned with his Unit and was living at Aston, Warwickshire, England. In 1905, Robert retired from the Army and after 30 years service became the recipient of a military pension. According to the 1911 Census, Robert, his wife and three sons resided at Birmingham .

The Seaforth highlanders went to fight in World War One in all was involved in all the major battles in Europe. The Highlanders strength was increased to nine Battalions which included one being sent to the Middle East. After World War One, they were deployed in Palestine and Hong Kong. World War Two seen Battalions depolyed in Malaya, Burma, North Africa and Europe. In 1961 The Regiment combined with the Queen’s Cameron Highlanders to form the Queen’s Highlanders

Robert took no active roll in the Army after his retirement. His Wife, Sarah, passed away in 1936 aged 79 years in Birmingham. Sarah and Robert had been married for 51 years. Robert remained in Birmingham, and died in 1940, aged 83 years.
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kerema wrote: 12 May 2023 05:32 SERGEANT ROBERT THOMPSON - SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS

Robert Thompson was born in Stirlingshire, Scotland in the year 1857. Stirlingshire is geographically situated in the centre of the country. His parents were Robert (Senior) and Elizabeth (nee Snaddon) Thompson. Robert was one of seven children.

Robert started his working life as a coal miner, but in 1875 at the age of 18, Robert enlisted in the Seaforth Highlanders. He spent 30 years in the Army and attained the rank of Sergeant. His unit of enlistment was the Seaforth Highlanders where he spent his whole service. Robert spent five years on overseas service including India, Afghanistan, and Egypt.

The Duke of Albany’s) Ross-shire’s own Highland regiment has had a long and colourful history. It was raised by the Mackenzie of Seaforth family in 1788 and was originally numbered the 72nd and the 78th Highlanders which were amalgamated to form the 1st and 2nd Battalions. The main recruiting area for the regiments was in Ross-shire with three-quarters of the men coming from the
Ross-shire estates of the Mackenzie families.

Since then the regiment’s recruiting area has been expanded to include Nairn. Caithness, Sutherland, and Moray. Throughout their history Lowlanders, English, Welsh and Irish have also served in the regiment.

Robert married Sarah Jane Wiseman on May 26, 1886. Their marriage produced three sons, and his service produced an impressive group of medals. They were from left to right
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Afghanistan Medal with Kandaha, Kabul, & Chaasia clasps. 1881
The Afghanistan Medal, sanctioned on 19 March 1881, was awarded to members of the British and Indian armies who served in Afghanistan between 1878 and 1880 during the Second Afghan War

Kabul, to Kandaha Star 1881
The medal is a bronze five-pointed star 62mm high and 48mm wide, suspended by the Imperial Crown. It was made from guns captured at the Battle of Kandahar.

Egypt Medal 1882 -1889
The Egypt Medal (1882–1889) was awarded for the military actions involving the British Army and Royal Navy during the 1882 Anglo-Egyptian War and in the Sudan Resentment at British and other European involvement in Egypt since the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869 triggered an Egyptian army mutiny that threatened the authority of the British-backed Khedive of Egypt, All recipients of the Egypt Medal were also eligible for one of the four versions of the Khedive's Star

Khedive’s Star and Tel Eb Kibir clasp 1882, was a campaign medal established by Khedive Tewfik Pasha to reward those who had participated in the military campaigns in Egypt and Sudan between 1882 and 1891. plus

Long Service & Good Medal . 1893
The Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal was instituted by King William IV in 1830. The medal remained in use for 100 years, until it was replaced by the Medal for Long Service and Good Conduct (Military) in 1930.

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In 1901 Robert had returned with his Unit and was living at Aston, Warwickshire, England. In 1905, Robert retired from the Army and after 30 years service became the recipient of a military pension. According to the 1911 Census, Robert, his wife and three sons resided at Birmingham .

The Seaforth highlanders went to fight in World War One. Its battalions were involved in all the major battles in Europe. The Highlanders strength was increased to nine Battalions which included one being sent to the Middle East. After World War One, they were deployed in Palestine and Hong Kong. World War Two seen Battalions deployed in Malaya, Burma, North Africa and Europe. In 1961 The Regiment combined with the Queen’s Cameron Highlanders to form the Queen’s Highlanders

Robert took no active roll in the Army after his retirement. His Wife, Sarah, passed away in 1936 aged 79 years in Birmingham. Sarah and Robert had been married for 51 years. Robert remained in Birmingham, and died in 1940, aged 83 years.Image
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - NZ WW2

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[ Major B Jones NZEF (KIA)
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Surname JONES
Given Names Bernard.
Title/Rank Major, Acting Lt. Colonel
Unit 23rd NZ Infantry Battalion


Major Bernard Jones was born in September 1912 at Tinaru in New Zealand. He lived in the Otago region and was a successful student. He attended University and qualified as a solicitor being employed as a law clerk. 1939 seen WW2 begin, and Mr. Jones enlisting in the New Zealand Army. During this time before the war Mr Jones had done militia service reaching the rank of Sergeant in the Infantry.

Promotion was rapid, and he was promoted to Lance Corporal in January 1940 and Temporary Sergeant two weeks later. In March, 1940, Bernard Jones was promoted to 2nd. Lieutenant. By September 1940, he had been promoted to Substantive Lieutenant. And posted to Tonga and Fiji on garrison duties. During this Time Lieutenant Jones was promoted to Captain.

1943 now saw promotion to Major, various battle efficiency and Infantry Officers courses, and a posting to North Africa as part of a New Zealand Brigade in the 8th. Army. After North Africa, the invasion of Italy took place. Allied progress up the “boot” of Italy had ground to a halt during the winter of 1943–44,  and was halted  by the Nazis’ Gustav Line which included the towering hill of Monte Casino which was topped by a monastery. The Allies were determined to capture this substantial building to gain control of the region..

Major Jones was posted as the Officer Commanding Bravo Company, 23rd Battalion. The Unit was involved in a vehicle convoy near Monte Casino when they were attacked by German Artillery on on 29 May, 1944. Unfortunately there were two fatalities in the attack with Major Jones being listed as killed in Action.
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Major Jones's medal group consisted of the following medals:

1 1939 - 45 Star
2 Africa Star with 8th Army Bar
3 Italy Star
4 Defence Medal
5 1939 - 45 War Medal
6 New Zealand Service Medal 39-45
7 New Zealand Memorial Cross

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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - Major Smith RAASC

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This is a group recantly made for the family of an Australian Royal Australian Service Corps Major. As he passed only a few years ago and not to distress his family, we will call him Major Smith. Major Smith must have been comissioned before World war two in the Citizen Military Forces.. He appears he seved in North Africa, Syria & Greece during WW2.

He was later sent to join the British Commonwealth Occupation Force post WW2, and then sent to Korea in the latter part of the Korean conflict in the early 1950’s. During the 1960’s Major Smith was part of a small Australian group that joined the UNGOG peace keepers in Indonesia. It appears he most likely retired by the start of the Vietnam War. I would suggest he had done at least 30 years service by retirement.
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The medal group consists of the following medals:

39-45 Star
Africa Star
Defence Medal
39 - 45 War Medal
Australian Service Medal
United Nations Korea Medal
Korea General Service medal (Australian Issue)
Australian Service Medal with three clasps Japan, Korea, & Indonesia
Efficiency Decoration (Australia)
Australian Defence Medal 2004
U N medal - (UNGOG Indonesia)
Greek War Medal
British Commonwealth Occupation Forces Medal
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Re: Share your interesting War Medal Groups - WW2 India Tanks

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Jemadar Taj Mohd. Pakistan Armoured Corps
This is a really un-usual group of seven medals to a Muslim man who fought with the Indian Army in World War Two. He fought the Germans and Italians in North Africa (Possibly Tobruk) and later the Japanese in Burma. He received five medals for his WW2 efforts and when the division of India and Pakistan took place in 1948, he was commissioned as a Jemadar (Lieutenant) in the Pakistan Armoured Corps.
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His swing mounted medal group consists of the following:
Pakistan Independence Medal 1947;
Pakistan Republic Medal 1956;
1939-45 Star;( Great Britain)
Africa Star; “
Burma Star; “
War Medal 1939-45; “
India Service Medal 1939-45.
The first medal is named to Jemadar Taj Mohd P.A.C. The other medals are unnamed. The named medal has impressed naming. The rank of Jemadar is a junior officer . We presume as PAC is Pakistan Armoured Corps and that his WW2 service was in the Indian Armoured Corps .
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Colonel John Faulkner ANDERSON

Colonel John Faulkner ANDERSON was born in India in 1888. As he came from a military family and his father being a Lieutenant Colonel in the British Army Vet. Corps, John was sent off to England to complete his military education. In 1902 he was granted his commission as a Lieutenant. In 1904 he was posted to India as an Officer in the Indian Army Remount Department. This unit obtained and trained suitable horses for Cavalry Units.

With a life of connected to horses, it was only a matter of time with John was sent to the 21st Lancers which was a cavalry Regiment. It was the only regular cavalry regiment of the British Army to spend the duration of the war in India and Mesopotamia. The regiment saw action on the North-West Frontier during 1915–16, with one trooper, Charles Hull, receiving the Victoria Cross.

The British Army were heavily involved in the struggle for Mesopotamia, and it turned out a major embarrassment for the British Government with the defeat of some British Troops. Mesopotamia is a historical region of Western Asia situated within the Tigris and Euphrates river system in the northern part of the Fertile Crescent. In the broader sense, the historical region included present-day Iraq and parts of Iran, Kuwait, Syria and Turkey.

When John was in Mesopotamia he attained the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, was twice Mentioned in Dispatches (M I D). He was the Deputy Commanding Officer of the Regiment. He was awarded the following decorations
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Companion of the Distinguished Service Order,
1914 - 15 Star
British War Medal.
and Victory medal with M I D emblem


John was married to Evalyn Bond ((Eve) 1n 1921, but the family continued to live in India and John served with the Indian Army until at least 1928 with the rank of Temporary Colonel. He retired before World War Two, but than was appointed Assistant Director of Remounts for the Indian Army during the World War Two. He obviously kept serving after the War as he is listed the British Army List of 1947 as Major Anderson and a" Re-employed Retired Indian Army Officer. "

1947 was a time of great upheaval in the Indian Sub-continent. Mahatma Gandhi was forcing independence from Great Britain, and members of the Muslim faith were demanding the creation of East & West Pakistan as a homeland for themselves.

During that year, like thousands of other families, the Andersons left India and moved to the United Kingdom. John Anderson invested in a horse stud in Cambridgeshire. The following year seen the retired Colonel on a plane trip to Pakistan. On November 26, 1948, his aircraft was involved in a crash and he was killed. When his estate was presented for probate, the Court was told that John had assets of 26,000 British Pounds. His wife Eve, remained in England until she died at Kensington in 1955.
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Miniatures Medals of Petty Officer WILLIAM JOHN ROSS -- Royal
Australian Navy


William John ROSS was born at Bright, Victoria during 1920. I know very little about John’s personal life except that he was a trained sailor by 1939 and the start of World War Two. He has a very nice group of medals which are:

1939 - 45 Star
Atlantic Star
Africa Star
Pacific Star with Burma Bar
Defence Medal
War Medal
Australian Service Medal
Queens Korea Medal
United Nations Korea Medal
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Today William would be able to claim two or possibly three more medals, being the
1945 - 75 Active Service Medal - Clasp “Korea”
Australian Defence Medal for at least four years service, and
most likely the 1945 -75 Australian Service Medal clasp “Japan.”

William apparently retired in Sunny Queensland where he passed away in the year 2000, aged 80. To comply with John’s wishes, he was cremated and his ashes scattered at sea near Port Arthur, Tasmania by the crew of a Royal Australian Navy vessel.
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Pampstamp wrote: 30 Nov 2020 22:59 Found this lot recently along with the others and have NO idea if anything here is of value :D

The medals are 1914 & 1913 and in silver!! :D

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Just saw this post the medal on the right is a Australian Army Senior Cadet competition medal and only . Quite sought after and $450+.
borsac wrote: 27 May 2021 01:43 Only 162 were awarded that year. You need to try and find out who he is. That might add some value.
Hey Borsac

Found some info on this a while back

Cadet: Harold Edgar TUCKER.
Gunner: 1599/Lance Corporal: 86043 Harold Edgar TUCKER. 36th Australian Heavy Artillery - Special Services.
Born: 18th July 1897. Murrurundi, Pages River, New South Wales, Australia.
Died: 20th September 1994. Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

Married: 1937. Paddington, New South Wales, Australia
Wife: Eunice Eden Alice Tucker. nee: Davidson. (1902-2005)

SOLD it a while back on EBAY

ANYONE take a guess what I sold it for :D
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Hey Borsac

That's great news- learn something everyday!! More than a few beers there :lol: :lol:
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Yeah I saw it sell got about $1200 or so didn't you?

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There is a superb catalogue of these sort of service medals - 'AUSTRALIANS AWARDED' - essential to own.

Borsac .. drove past your Adelaide pub on Sunday, and looks like it has been knocked down?
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borsac wrote: 24 May 2023 12:11 Yeah I saw it sell got about $1200 or so didn't you?

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Haha spot on!! :D :D
And I think the other one is worth more :lol: :lol:

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Global Admin wrote: 24 May 2023 18:07 There is a superb catalogue of these sort of service medals - 'AUSTRALIANS AWARDED' - essential to own.

Borsac .. drove past your Adelaide pub on Sunday, and looks like it has been knocked down?
Is that so! Might have to look into that.

As for the pub, sorry don't do Adelaide :lol: :lol:
I owe you a beer or two though,for revving me up :D
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British Unattributed group of 14 WW1 & WW2

Today I am presenting am presenting a group which was purchased in New Zealand about 30 years ago.
I have no idea who the recipient is, but I thing he was likely a long serving Senior Non Commissioned Officer or Warrant Officer or a RSM. He would have served in the Reserves and received the following medals.
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1914 -15 star
British War medal
Victory Medal
IGS 1908 Afghanistan 1919
1939 - 45 Star
Africa Star
Burma Star
Defence Medal
War Medal
KGV Coronation Medal
KGVI Silver. Jubilee Medal
KGVI Coronation Medal
Volunteer Force long Service Medal
Efficiency medal & 2 Clasps

The first three medals were awarded for World War 1 service,
IGS 1908 Afghanistan 1919 was awarded for service in the North of India,
The 1939-45 Star plus the next 4 medals were for World War 2 service,
The Coronation Medals plus the Silver Medal were commemorative medals for the Crown,
and the last two medals were for recognition of long service.
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Company Sergeant Major Alfred Wilbrow.
Australian Army Service Corps.
First day lander at Gallipoli. Landed from the HMS Ascot which means he could well have been on the shore boat in the collection of the Australian War Memorial.
Exceptional with horses which is how he earnt his MSM.
Medallion on right was engraved on 20 piastre coin.
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The group awarded to CSM Alfred Wilbrow is indeed a scarce group to Australians.
There were 10,000 Military Medals (M.M.) awarded to Australians so the M.S.M. (Meritorious Service medal) is very desirable to collectors. The MSM prior to and after WW1 was awarded for long periods of meritorious service of around 25 years in all armed services. In 1917 it was decided that an award was needed for acts of bravery not involving enemy forces, and soldiers that performed outstanding work.

This was called the immediate award and about 26000 were awarded across the Commonwealth countries until 1928 when the practice was ceased with the issue of the new British Empire Medal, and the MSM reverted back to its original role.
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Grandfather fought in the Battle of Tug Argan in Somalialand then joined the Indian Army as Captain with 'duties not disclosed' which was him trying to keep Mao and Chiang Kai-shek onside before the US took over the theatre.

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If you like your naughty soldiers this one is one of the best.
Alfred Lowe 10th Battalion of Port Pirie, South Australia.
I won't write it all out because the highlights are in the image.
Another first day lander too. Wounded four days in.
Twice he got Field punishment in Gallipoli to start with (which was considered more dangerous than just being at Gallipoli!).
He was also one of the last off ANZAC too.
Faced a court martial four times!.
The 1914/15 star has never been worn or even put on the ribbon.
He never claimed the other two medals he was entitled to.
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Global Admin wrote: 24 May 2023 18:07 There is a superb catalogue of these sort of service medals - 'AUSTRALIANS AWARDED' - essential to own.

Borsac .. drove past your Adelaide pub on Sunday, and looks like it has been knocked down?
Pub is still there Glen. I think a development is iminent though.
And yes "Australians Awarded" is an absolute must have book.
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Pampstamp wrote: 24 May 2023 23:53
borsac wrote: 24 May 2023 12:11 Yeah I saw it sell got about $1200 or so didn't you?

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Haha spot on!! :D :D
And I think the other one is worth more :lol: :lol:

Cheers
Nah unless I'm mistaken the other one looks to be some sort of commemorative Royalty/King/Coronation type of thing...
Put a better image of both sides of it up. I'll give you my two bobs worth.

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borsac wrote: 29 May 2023 20:09
Pampstamp wrote: 24 May 2023 23:53
borsac wrote: 24 May 2023 12:11 Yeah I saw it sell got about $1200 or so didn't you?

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Haha spot on!! :D :D
And I think the other one is worth more :lol: :lol:

Cheers
Nah unless I'm mistaken the other one looks to be some sort of commemorative Royalty/King/Coronation type of thing...
Put a better image of both sides of it up. I'll give you my two bobs worth.

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Ok Tony
Hit me with your two bobs worth!!

Mind you I already have a good offer for it 8-)
Like the other one which I then decided to let it run to auction!! :D :D
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More interesting than I thought.
Not a proper 'medal' as such though and actually rarer.
The Newtown connection makes it more interesting might attract the 'local historian' type buyers too.
Buyer of the previous one you sold would also probably want it to go with it.
I'd say $600 but if two people want it who knows?

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borsac wrote: 31 May 2023 08:21 More interesting than I thought.
Not a proper 'medal' as such though and actually rarer.
The Newtown connection makes it more interesting might attract the 'local historian' type buyers too.
Buyer of the previous one you sold would also probably want it to go with it.
I'd say $600 but if two people want it who knows?

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Yes interesting indeed, the other one was rare, apparently this one is next level!! They simply don't exist.
The guy that inspected it couldn't believe what he was looking at.
I have four figures for it BUT will try my luck at auction in time 8-)

The NEWTOWN connection apparently is big, along with the fact it is a Military competition medal C1914 with a special forces digger, makes it worth its weight in gold.

I am sure you will see it when it eventually hits the market :D
( might also be able to buy Glen a drink or three :lol: )
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I've just had a look at his records online.
Interesting.
He was Home Defence then was a Gunner in the 36th Australian Heavy Artillery Brigade.
He embarked Sydney for the UK on the ship Wereema on the 14th October 1918 and the war was over and the ship was recalled.
His "Special Service" was his re-enlistment on return to Australia as a corporal on the ship 'Ypiringa" after the war escorting deportees back to Europe.
He didn't fight in WWI. he only was in Europe after the war.
His full medal entitlement was a British War Medal. BWM.
If you can get anything into four figures for it I'd consider that a good offer and grab it with vigour and save yourself being gouged 16% by eBay!
It would be interesting if you could find his BWM. I've had quite a few things like this over the years (not Newtown) and they definitely add good value to a medal group.
But best of luck whatever you do.
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borsac wrote: 29 May 2023 20:05
Global Admin wrote: 24 May 2023 18:07 There is a superb catalogue of these sort of service medals - 'AUSTRALIANS AWARDED' - essential to own.

Borsac .. drove past your Adelaide pub on Sunday, and looks like it has been knocked down?
Pub is still there Glen. I think a development is imminent though.

And yes "Australians Awarded" is an absolute must have book.

Regards Tony

Looked like it was a construction zone .. but maybe I was looking at wrong corner - we were driving to Rundle Mall, and did not stop.

Agree "Australians Awarded" is essential for this stuff as it is PRICED. a massive book. Here we have pampstamp telling us initially he had zero idea what he had, and is now talking 4 figures apiece. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pampstamp wrote: 30 Nov 2020 22:59
Found this lot recently along with the others and have NO idea if anything here is of value :D

The medals are 1914 & 1913 and in silver!! :D

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GlenStephens wrote: 01 Jun 2023 14:17
Agree "Australians Awarded" is essential for this stuff as it is PRICED. a massive book. Here we have pampstamp telling initially he had zero idea what he had, and is now talking 4 figures apiece. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Plenty of $$$$ in Australian militaria Glenn as you would know.

He did very well with the first medal. This one mmmm.... we'll see.... :shock:

While I've got you I need the latest BW KGV book. Got one?

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And this massive book is only $A60 - I sell 5 or 10 copies a year - .... when pampstamp etc, can use it to look up 4 figure finds, he admits he knew nothing at all about, it pays for itself very fast! :)

768 large pages and hard covered 'Australians Awarded' by Clive Johnson is a MUST HAVE!

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borsac wrote: 01 Jun 2023 14:22
GlenStephens wrote: 01 Jun 2023 14:17
Agree "Australians Awarded" is essential for this stuff as it is PRICED. a massive book. Here we have pampstamp telling initially he had zero idea what he had, and is now talking 4 figures apiece. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Plenty of $$$$ in Australian militaria Glenn as you would know.

He did very well with the first medal. This one mmmm.... we'll see.... :shock:

While I've got you I need the latest BW KGV book. Got one?

Regards Tony

Tony yes - - just listed them on the Rarity Page (Stock 385BJ) -- a massive work and now all in full colour - had 20 orders for it, this week alone! Brusden White, ACSC Federation Era, Australian States Catalogue 1901-1912

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Allan Spowers (1892-1968), army officer and company director, was born on 9 July 1892 at South Yarra, Melbourne. Allan boarded (from 1905) at Geelong Church of England Grammar School. He entered the University of Melbourne (B.A., 1920) in 1912, but interrupted his studies to travel to England where he enlisted in the British Army and was commissioned in the East Lancashire Regiment on 4 May 1915.

Attached to the regiment's 6th Battalion, Spowers fought at Gallipoli and in Mesopotamia in the following year. He won the Military Cross (1916) for leading his men in a night-attack during which he was twice wounded. In addition, he was awarded the Distinguished Service Order (1916) and was mentioned in dispatches. He was promoted lieutenant in April 1917 and demobilized from the army in July 1919.

Returning to Melbourne, he worked as a journalist on the Argus and Australasian. On 29 April 1922 at St Marks Church of England, Darling Point, Sydney, he had married Rosamond Sandys Lumsdaine, a niece of A. B. ('Banjo') Paterson.

In 1928-33 Spowers served in the Militia. He was a captain in the 46th Battalion in September 1939 and promoted major in November. Transferring to the Australian Imperial Force in May 1940, he was promoted lieutenant colonel and appointed commander of the 2nd/24th Battalion in July. He maintained high standards of conduct, insisted on mental and physical toughness, and disdained pretentiousness.

The 2nd/24th arrived in the Middle East in December 1940, withdrew to Tobruk, Libya, in April 1941 and was besieged there until October. In January 1942 the battalion was sent to Syria for intensive training. Spowers was twice mentioned in dispatches for his services.

Ordered back to the Western Desert in June in response to the German advance into Egypt, he and his men played a leading role in the battle of Tel el Eisa. Lt. General Sir Leslie Morshead described Spowers's leadership as 'outstandingly meritorious' and he was to be awarded a Bar (1945) to his D.S.O. On 12 July 1942 he became a prisoner of war when his jeep was inadvertently driven into enemy territory.

Freed in Germany in March 1945 and repatriated in August, Spowers was appointed temporary colonel and director of amenities, Army Headquarters, Melbourne. He transferred to the Reserve of Officers on 17 July 1946 and then held a number of other directorships and chaired (1951-59) the Victorian division of the Australian Red Cross Society.

In 1956 he was appointed C.M.G. and to the Swedish Royal Order of Vasa. He died on 4 May 1968 , and was buried in Wangaratta cemetery.
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