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I am trying to put together a listing of all the flight covers in the series of flight covers carried by QANTAS on the first flight from Sydney to Johannesburg in September 1952.

The Australian Airmail Catalogue lists a complete set as 24 covers.

I don't believe there were any return covers from Johannesburg based on the QANTAS letter that I have found, so I'm trying to work out all the possible combinations so I can complete a full set of covers.

To add to the whole process, there were also a series of SHELL covers which were printed for the same flight, but I have no idea of how many of these there were and which destinations they went to/from!

I WONDER IF ANYONE HAS MORE INFORMATION AND CAN HELP ME?

I've added photos of 3 covers to illustrate what they look like, as well as a database list of the covers I've collected.

There are gaps there, but I don't know what they are!!!!

And if anyone knows the complete list, I'd love to see it.

I've also included a photo of the beautiful Super Constellation that did the inaugural flight.

1307 SYD TO JBG F.jpg
1308A COC TO COC VIA JBG F.jpg
1307f shell syd-maur-syd.jpg
1307 INFO 1.jpg
simple SOUTH AFRICAN DATABASE-1.jpg
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I've handled vast numbers of the Qantas covers, but VERY few of the Shell.

Not sure how they were offered, or if there were as many, but a ton scarcer that is for sure. :lol:
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Alan

I never seen the Shell covers before, but I have 4 Qantas covers in my Cocos Island collection:

1. Sydney - Cocos - Sydney

2. Cocos - Mauritius.

3. Cocos - Johannesburg

4. Cocos -Sydney, which I show below as I don't think it is on your list:
Qantas Flight cover to GPO Sydney - Australia South Africa First Regular rubber cachet in violet - September 1952.
Qantas Flight cover to GPO Sydney - Australia South Africa First Regular rubber cachet in violet - September 1952.
RAAF Cocos Island cds - 6th September 1952
RAAF Cocos Island cds - 6th September 1952
Reverse with GPO Sydney NSW cds - 9th September 1952
Reverse with GPO Sydney NSW cds - 9th September 1952
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Thanks Bigsaint - it's on the list about 1/2 way down COC-SYD
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AlanLogue wrote: 20 Apr 2024 09:14
I don't believe there were any return covers from Johannesburg based on the QANTAS letter that I have found, so I'm trying to work out all the possible combinations so I can complete a full set of covers.

I sold 32 of them to a dealer via my listing here! He doubtless still has one for sale. :)

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Glen - any chance you can put us in contact??????
I'm not after buying any of his (unless he wants to sell) but I'd like to know what (if any), I'm still looking for.
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My guy must have cornered the global market in the JNB-SYD covers that Qantas seem to say never existed!

As you can see Kevin Morgan was the buyer - I am sure he will not have sold all 32 of them yet! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Joburg to Sydney was a known cover - it was the Joburg-Syd-Joburg covers that do not appear to have been done. Also Joburg-Cocos-Joburg and Joburg-Mauritius-Joburg that were not done - at least is what the QANTAS letter implies.
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Additional correspondence from Qantas would indicate that the Cocos to Johannesburg covers may be less common than all the others.
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It isn’t my area of aero collecting but I thought I had a similar Qantas cover somewhere. Just found it and it’s a Mauritius-Joburg-Mauritius sent on 3-9-1952 and has a Joburg 4-9-1952 receiving cancel on the rear with the usual Australia to South Africa cachet as well. There’s a 6-9-1952 cancel on the front.

On the rear is the handstamp numeral number 3309, wherever that means :!:

This cover appears on your list near the bottom.
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