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And some European items.
AMMRE Germany pre-1910 (two perfinned "DGA" for Deutsche Grammophon Aktiengesellschaft who pressed Zonophone and handstamped with publishing firms' names), and Columbia Spanish 1930s.
Ammre type 1a 1907 "Schulberth & Co"
Ammre type 1a 1907 "Schulberth & Co"
Ammre type 1a 1908 "Carl Rühle's Musikverlag"
Ammre type 1a 1908 "Carl Rühle's Musikverlag"
Ammre type 12b 1909
Ammre type 12b 1909
Columbia type S2b CORRIENTE 1930s
Columbia type S2b CORRIENTE 1930s
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I should note that the dates above for the AMMRE stamps are for the original issue of the records. As AMMRE wasn't formed until 1909 they are obviously on slightly later re-pressings, which was not uncommon. Some records remained in the catalogue for many years.
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Ernest Worton David (1872-1940) started his own music publishing firm in 1924, after breaking from Lawrence Wright (Horatio Nicholls).

The ¾d is quite rare, especially with the red font variation. The one on the Scala Ideal label isn't in the best condition but creates an attractive colour combination.
Worton David ¾d on 1925 Scala Ideal
Worton David ¾d on 1925 Scala Ideal
Worton David ¾d, both font colours
Worton David ¾d, both font colours
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Copyright royalty stamps can also be found on the boxes for cylinder records, but are not common. Obviously they could not be affixed to the cylinders themselves. All my copies shown here are on the base of the box but I have seen in the past an image of one affixed to the side of the box - can anyone supply an image?

Edison was the first to issue these commercially from 1889,and kept with them for owners of the players into the 1920s.
Edison Blue Amberol cylinder box
Edison Blue Amberol cylinder box
Pre-1910 French Pathe cylinders with Agence Generale stamps.
Agence Generale 6a Jeny on Pathe
Agence Generale 6a Jeny on Pathe
Agence Generale 7aV Vives on Pathe
Agence Generale 7aV Vives on Pathe
Post-1912 UK issues, all from The Copyright Protection Society.
TCPS 1d purple Enoch HS
TCPS 1d purple Enoch HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1 ½d yellow-green CHAPPELL HS
TCPS 1 ½d yellow-green CHAPPELL HS
TCPS 2d green Chappell MS on Amberol
TCPS 2d green Chappell MS on Amberol
TCPS 2 ½d brown on green
TCPS 2 ½d brown on green
TCPS 2 ¾d red Chap MS
TCPS 2 ¾d red Chap MS
c.1923-4 for sale in Australia
Chappell London & Sydney 2 ½d MS
Chappell London & Sydney 2 ½d MS
J. Albert & Son 2 ½d
J. Albert & Son 2 ½d
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Listing J. Albert & Son Pty Ltd continued, set 430B. 1942-65.
As 430A - perf 11, sans-serif font but chalk-surfaced.
430B ½d
430B ½d
430B ⅞d
430B ⅞d
430B 1¼d
430B 1¼d
430B 1¼d a. dropped dot
430B 1¼d a. dropped dot
430B 1½d
430B 1½d
430B 1½d a. yellow-green signature & value
430B 1½d a. yellow-green signature & value
430B 1⅝d
430B 1⅝d
430B 1⅝d fugitive green
430B 1⅝d fugitive green
430B 1¾d
430B 1¾d
430B 2½d
430B 2½d
430B 2⅝d
430B 2⅝d
430B 2¾d
430B 2¾d
430B 2⅞d
430B 2⅞d
430B 3¼d
430B 3¼d
430B 4⅜d
430B 4⅜d
430B 8½d
430B 8½d
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This is atypical for a private sticker, so I was wondering if it could be copyright related?
Verdi was published by Ricordi which fits with the first part of the hand writing
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Seuk wrote: 07 May 2023 08:40 This is atypical for a private sticker, so I was wondering if it could be copyright related?
Verdi was published by Ricordi which fits with the first part of the hand writing
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The Verdi H/S from the previous post is also seen on other stamps, in this case Ricordi.
Ricordi Germany with Verdi H/S
Ricordi Germany with Verdi H/S
These "blue frame" copyright stamps are not uncommon, especially on some South American records, or European records exported there. There's a wide variety of frame designs and overprints/manuscripts.
Mignone
Mignone
Fernandez
Fernandez
Robledo
Robledo
Eduardo Arolas
Eduardo Arolas
C Allende
C Allende
Various Blue Frame copyright stamps
Various Blue Frame copyright stamps
And very rarely on sheet music, in this case from Chile.
Blue frame on Chilean Sheet Music
Blue frame on Chilean Sheet Music
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That seems settled then. Perhaps the corrected 2 (to 1) is due to the record being one-sided?

I've now compiled all the stamps I've found so far having overprints/stamps/writing relating to Denmark. The values 6,25 and 12,50 øre are the most common but 7,50 and 10 øre also appears. Others are just stamped Sk (Skandinavia, which is most likely referring to the forerunner of NCB) or with W.H. or Wilhelm Hansen, who were the main publisher in Denmark.
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Seuk wrote: 25 May 2023 04:54 That seems settled then. Perhaps the corrected 2 (to 1) is due to the record being one-sided?

I've now compiled all the stamps I've found so far having overprints/stamps/writing relating to Denmark. The values 6,25 and 12,50 øre are the most common but 7,50 and 10 øre also appears. Others are just stamped Sk (Skandinavia, which is most likely referring to the forerunner of NCB) or with W.H. or Wilhelm Hansen, who were the main publisher in Denmark.
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Thanks seuk, it's great to see such a range from one country. New items noted for the 3rd Edition.
Hopefully other collectors in Sweden and Finland can find similar ranges.

Meantime here's a nice duo of Pathé stamps recently acquired, on a record destined for Spain.
Also a great item for a Bird thematic collector!
Pathé stamps on Spanish Disco Pathé
Pathé stamps on Spanish Disco Pathé
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The similar 12" UK Columbia 78s, all with Mecolico ⅞d provisional values.
All are in the 300 serial number series and of Gilbert & Sullivan operetta material, but the third is a later re-press under a later label style. The matrix numbers (62xx, 63xx) were originally recorded 1912-13.

The first two are pre-WW1 issues.
Mecolico ⅞d typeset
Mecolico ⅞d typeset
Mecolico ⅞d manuscript
Mecolico ⅞d manuscript
While this one is probably mid-1920s.
Mecolico ⅞d typewritten
Mecolico ⅞d typewritten
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Fonotipia were an early producer of high-quality and expensive 78rpm records, from 1904 to the mid-1920s.
They specialised in classical vocalists and opera, but were never a volume seller.
They often also had less common stamps affixed as shown below.
Their records are still sought after today by keen 78rpm record collectors.
I was able to obtain these stamps, but I had to return the records to their owner :)
G. Ricordi type 4 green on Fonotipia
G. Ricordi type 4 green on Fonotipia
G. Ricordi type 6 green on Fonotipia
G. Ricordi type 6 green on Fonotipia
G. Ricordi type G1 Pinsuti on Fonotipia
G. Ricordi type G1 Pinsuti on Fonotipia
Societe Generale type X11 6 blue on Fonotipia
Societe Generale type X11 6 blue on Fonotipia
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Three new finds related to Denmark
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Without Durium, though found on a Durium record...
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Full sheets of any copyright stamp are very scarce.
While in the UK in 1983 Jim Brodie collected these from M.C.P.S, presumably by direct purchase.

The Statutory Royalty stamps were possibly used for a few remaining locally pressed recordings where non-stamp accounting arrangements (usually the printing of the Mecolico logo, or just their name, on the label would suffice) had not been reached. These would be low-volume non-mainstream record companies, like this example from 1979 on the Gaudeamus label.
Statutory Royalty on Gaudeamus label 1979
Statutory Royalty on Gaudeamus label 1979
Mecolico Statutory Royalty sheet 1983
Mecolico Statutory Royalty sheet 1983
Printed by The Reliance Press, Streatham as shown by this parcel label for 1,000 sheets of 100 stamps.
Reliance Press parcel label for 100,000 Statutory Royalty labels
Reliance Press parcel label for 100,000 Statutory Royalty labels

The next three are sheets of 24 peel&stick copyright labels used for imported recordings, printed by Norprint Ltd, Boston, Lincolnshire. The importing distributor is shown by the initials before the value.

ST1 = Stage One Records, 5p for 7" singles.
MCPS ST1 sheet 5p 1983
MCPS ST1 sheet 5p 1983
GI = unknown, 10p for 12" singles
MCPS GI 10p sheet 1983
MCPS GI 10p sheet 1983
GI = unknown, 25p for LPs
MCPS GI 25p sheet 1983
MCPS GI 25p sheet 1983
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New arrival - I would think the writing translate to Ø(re) 7,5(0) though the first number also looks like a '4'
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More new Denmark/Scandinavia related stamps
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Seuk wrote: 23 Jul 2023 06:30 Image
New arrival - I would think the writing translate to Ø(re) 7,5(0) though the first number also looks like a '4'
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Those are nice, I'd say dating from 1913. The label design is pre-1911 before the Gramophone Co started using His Master's Voice, but some re-use after that, especially outside of the UK, would be expected.
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And a Chappell & Co. Ltd. with a not before seen denomination of 16.25 øre
As long as I find the stamp in Denmark, I assume it's related to this country. - However, since Norway and Sweden also use øre/öre and kroner, there's always a tiny chance the stamp could be related to one of these countries instead...
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Latest find:
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N.P.A. (most likely: Nordisk Polyphon Aktieselskab) on H.M.V. overprint. The record was released in 1932 and there happened to be four copies in a collection I was inspecting - all carrying the same stamp.
It appears that the license number printed on the label was an error?
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Seuk wrote: 20 Aug 2023 21:42 Latest find:
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N.P.A. (most likely: Nordisk Polyphon Aktieselskab) on H.M.V. overprint. The record was released in 1932 and there happened to be four copies in a collection I was inspecting - all carrying the same stamp.
It appears that the license number printed on the label was an error?
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That's interesting that the H/S on the stamp would appear to link to a code printed on the record label. I've seen that with early Pathes where a number handstamped, printed or written on the BACK of the stamp corresponds to a code appearing at the base of the embossed (not paper) label.
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A 1920s Vox destined for export to New Zealand. AMMRE stamp overprint reads Vox / rot25cm / Neuseeland.
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AMMRE Neuseeland overprint
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Confirmed! The green variation of the Danish Wilhelm Hansen copyright stamp does exist. Now I just need the right half...
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Seuk wrote: 29 Aug 2023 06:42 Confirmed! The green variation of the Danish Wilhelm Hansen copyright stamp does exist. Now I just need the right half...
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Good Work, you only need a chunk of a stamp in this case to prove it exists - into the catalogue it goes.

While I'm here, a new record for my 78rpm collection, but also with a nice Societe Generale EDIFO stamp with the AEROPHONE text.
EDIFO AEROPHONE copyright stamp
EDIFO AEROPHONE copyright stamp
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Two new SK overprint variations
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Overview of NCB stamps with overprints - first one Padilla rest are German overprints for Denmark
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German overprints on NCB stamp for Finland, Iceland and Sweden - one also overprinted EDIFO
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Seuk wrote: 03 Sep 2023 22:23 Two new SK overprint variations
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Overview of NCB stamps with overprints - first one Padilla rest are German overprints for Denmark
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German overprints on NCB stamp for Finland, Iceland and Sweden - one also overprinted EDIFO
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Nice range there. The red script overprint top left of the second image is an inverted "Padilla".
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This looks like a typical and common Mecolico 3d stamp, but it is the much later perf 10¼, and isn't catalogued in the 2nd Edition. Only the fact it was on a 1950s obscure 78 made me check its perfs.
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Mecolico 3d on 1950s UK Tivoli
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A few stamps seen on Facebook - First one is norwegian and though I do see a few norwegian records from time to time, I have not yet found a norwegian or norwegian-related copyright stamp.
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Seuk wrote: 23 Sep 2023 23:14 Image
It'd be interesting to see what the stamp is under the left "CN" label....
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adam78 wrote: 26 Sep 2023 11:56
Seuk wrote: 23 Sep 2023 23:14 Image
It'd be interesting to see what the stamp is under the left "CN" label....
I'm wondering what the CN (or GN?) stands for? It seems rather primitive but as both has overprints, I assume they are some form of copyright stamps.
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Newbie - about 3/4 of a Lawrence Wright stamp with a 15 øre value (highest amount I've seen so far)
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A few new stamps
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DGAG stamped "614 NPA" and handwritten '½' at bottom. The handwriting could of course have been added later for some reason, but I think it's safe to assume it refers to a half part of the copyright. The other is a common type, only the overprint is misplaced.
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Two of the large (27mm) Société Générale de l'Édition Phonographique stamps with overprints for Denmark. The first one for Amre stamped SK of a new type + the usual Grammo and a black 05 overprint I haven't seen before on these stamps. Second for Edifo/Gramophone with an oval Wilhelm Hansen Copenhague stamp.
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Finally found an Erato stamp
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1922 release - It appears the rights was later taken over by Otto (another Danish publisher). (Picture from https://www.the-discographer.dk/revy/boesen-disko.pdf) with both stamps visible under a partly removed record store sticker
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adam78 wrote: 16 Nov 2022 09:51
Seuk wrote: 15 Nov 2022 00:06 A modern NCB sticker - release is probably from 1978
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A very late use - and peel&stick format too. The general approach by then (even from the 1960s) would just to have the copyright holders name in parentheses after the title.
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I just found an even later use (1982, stamp to the right) with a slightly different design (tiny difference in size of letters and easier to see; less rounded corners of sticker)
It's from a Swedish release which already had the NCB printed, hence I think that there must be an accounting technical justification for adding the stickers
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Seuk wrote: 28 Oct 2023 22:36 Finally found an Erato stamp
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1922 release - It appears the rights was later taken over by Otto (another Danish publisher). (Picture from https://www.the-discographer.dk/revy/boesen-disko.pdf) with both stamps visible under a partly removed record store sticker
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The Gramophone Co label style seems to date from just before they started using "His Master's Voice" on all their labels, around 1912. The fact is is overstuck with another stamp means it may have sat in stock for some time - perhaps some local research will uncover when Otto took over Erato?
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Seuk wrote: 28 Oct 2023 22:11 A few new stamps
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DGAG stamped "614 NPA" and handwritten '½' at bottom. The handwriting could of course have been added later for some reason, but I think it's safe to assume it refers to a half part of the copyright. The other is a common type, only the overprint is misplaced.
If the record that the left stamp came off was meant to be sold in the UK, then the "1/2" could well be for "½d"
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adam78 wrote: 04 Nov 2023 08:18
Seuk wrote: 28 Oct 2023 22:11 A few new stamps
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DGAG stamped "614 NPA" and handwritten '½' at bottom. The handwriting could of course have been added later for some reason, but I think it's safe to assume it refers to a half part of the copyright. The other is a common type, only the overprint is misplaced.
If the record that the left stamp came off was meant to be sold in the UK, then the "1/2" could well be for "½d"
The record is Danish and unlikely to have been exported. There's a printed "NPA 175" License on the label.
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Two new variations - printed E. Kálmán with 10 oere (øre) type written and regular blue NCB stamp with SALABERT hand stamp.
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New Denmark related variations:
- BIEM stamp hand stamped "Arti Dänemark 25cm" - first time I see a BIEM with record size added in cm (which is common on NCB stamps)
- Walsh Holmes & Co. with hand written 12.50 (12½ øre)
- Brown IBA hand stamped "SK"
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So far the only copy of this copyrght stamp I've come across.
Sun Music Publishing was formed in 1935 by Bert Lucas, previously orchestral and mechanical manager for Francis, Day Hunter, who issued a myriad of stamps.
Sun Music Publishing Co Ltd stamp on Brunswick 1935
Sun Music Publishing Co Ltd stamp on Brunswick 1935
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Continuing to tidy up an old folder of photos taken while I was collecting in England 10 years back...
Berners for British Song Society, 1929
Berners for British Song Society, 1929
Montgomery & Co 1929
Montgomery & Co 1929
Polydor Class 2 1% Mecolico 1929
Polydor Class 2 1% Mecolico 1929
BIEM/AMMRE on German Ultraphon record sold in Austria, 25cm 2½%
BIEM/AMMRE on German Ultraphon record sold in Austria, 25cm 2½%
NCB for Telefunken Sweden 1937
NCB for Telefunken Sweden 1937
Patersons Publications 1⅛d 1936
Patersons Publications 1⅛d 1936
Gramophone Co rare triangular stamp, 1925
Gramophone Co rare triangular stamp, 1925
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Hi there,

Here's a Cinderella of sorts on 78 record.

I'm going to show the sleeve that has Mrs Campbell written in pen (No idea who she is) & Mrs C on the other side in pencil.
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Now I will show the centre of record and Cinderella of Winifred Atwell & unknown signature.
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Listing J. Albert & Son Pty Ltd continued.
Set 435A - previous sets 430A and 430B overprinted with new values in black type.
bar obliterator on 1¼d
bar obliterator on 1¼d
¼ on 1⅜d to give 1¼d
¼ on 1⅜d to give 1¼d
1½d on 1⅝d
1½d on 1⅝d
2d serif font on 1⅞d
2d serif font on 1⅞d
2⅛d on 1⅝d
2⅛d on 1⅝d
3½d on ⅞d
3½d on ⅞d
4d on 1⅝d
4d on 1⅝d
4¼d on 1⅝d
4¼d on 1⅝d
6 on 8d
6 on 8d
7d on 1d
7d on 1d
7d on 1d (1d badly offset)
7d on 1d (1d badly offset)
8½d on ⅞d
8½d on ⅞d
And one that looks almost typewritten
¾ on 1⅜d to give 1¾d
¾ on 1⅜d to give 1¾d
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Sets 440 and 441, printed in darker shade of red with different signature - not yet deciphered.
c.1940 all so far found on Macquarie 78rpm records.
1¼d printed
1¼d printed
1¼d in manuscript
1¼d in manuscript
Between 1938 and 1942 standard stamps were handstamped or overprinted with initials to represent Francis, Day & Hunter's copyrights dealt with in Australia by Alberts.
Set 450 (on values from sets 400, 410 and 430A)
¾d
¾d
⅞d
⅞d
Set 460 (on values from sets 400, 430A and 430B)
2¾d Perf 10, chalk surfaced, serif font
2¾d Perf 10, chalk surfaced, serif font
A Perf 10, chalk surfaced, serif font
A Perf 10, chalk surfaced, serif font
½d perf 11
½d perf 11
⅝d perf 11
⅝d perf 11
⅞d perf 11
⅞d perf 11
2¾d perf 11
2¾d perf 11
Later until the early 1950s, stamps specially printed in carmine and black were used instead of overprinted ones.
Set 480, perf 11.
⅞d
⅞d
1d
1d
1⅛d
1⅛d
1⅜d
1⅜d
1¾d
1¾d
1⅞d (altered in manuscript to 1⅛d)
1⅞d (altered in manuscript to 1⅛d)
Set 490. One value has so far been found rouletted.
1⅛d rouletted
1⅛d rouletted
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Kiwidude wrote: 23 Jan 2024 12:49 Hi there,
Here's a Cinderella of sorts on 78 record.
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Here's another signed one on a different Decca, mid-1950s. NZ-pressed records so probably an NZ label also.
Signed Winifred Atwell cinderella on Decca 78rpm (New Zealand pressing)
Signed Winifred Atwell cinderella on Decca 78rpm (New Zealand pressing)
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Some nice stamps off Polydors from a collection recently obtained.
AMMRE Type 19 8 on Polydor
AMMRE Type 19 8 on Polydor
AMMRE Type 20 4 on Polydor
AMMRE Type 20 4 on Polydor
Mecolico Poly 1% 9-10d on Polydor
Mecolico Poly 1% 9-10d on Polydor
Side Ammre Ricordi 25 yellow on Polydor
Side Ammre Ricordi 25 yellow on Polydor
Sonzogno DUTREIH on Polydor
Sonzogno DUTREIH on Polydor
Sonzogno DUTREIH on Polydor
Sonzogno DUTREIH on Polydor
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Latest Scandinavian variations found
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Seuk wrote: 24 Mar 2024 02:21 Latest Scandinavian variations found
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The SKAP stamp is a new one from Sweden, do you know what the initials stand for? - Google hints that the S.K. stands for "Sveriges kompositörer" but the A.P. remains a mystery to me. I see they were founded in 1926.
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adam78 wrote: 24 Mar 2024 09:55
Seuk wrote: 24 Mar 2024 02:21 Latest Scandinavian variations found
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The SKAP stamp is a new one from Sweden, do you know what the initials stand for? - Google hints that the S.K. stands for "Sveriges kompositörer" but the A.P. remains a mystery to me. I see they were founded in 1926.
According to https://libris.kb.se/jgvxvc724pd7lwk it's: "Svenska Kompositörer Av Populärmusik"
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Released in 1927
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I recently acquire the following block off of Ebay. From the listing I assumed there was some toning, albeit rather odd:
Block of Biem 1½d Copyright Label
Block of Biem 1½d Copyright Label
Closer examination reveals it is text,each line probably being the same text but offset horizontally and repeating every 5 rows, the five rows spaced to be the height of one stamp:
Attempt to isolate text from Biem copyright stamp
Attempt to isolate text from Biem copyright stamp
Re-alining the lines helps build up a more complete picture of the text
Estimate text "N.B.C.   AMMRE   EDIFO   MEC(C)ANLIZEN?  ????CO?"
Estimate text "N.B.C. AMMRE EDIFO MEC(C)ANLIZEN? ????CO?"
Can anyone complete the text ? Tried googling as a phrase of individual words but no success.

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PS: under certain lighting, the text looks more glossy and I think is printed over the top of the stamp design ?
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