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This is my first post on Stampboards apart from the one introducing myself. I am a long time collector and researcher of Australian permanent pictorial postmarks and hope to exchange information with fellow enthusiasts.

I purchased Clarrie Peck’s original catalogue in the mid 1980s along with his subsequent ones and the most recent edition produced by Colleen Woolley and Jan Eury which continued and expanded Clarrie’s work. I annotate this catalogue with my own information on new permanent pictorials and also their ongoing use, alteration or withdrawal.

In my experience of trying to keep track of current pictorial postmarks, I have found that it is not as easy as you might imagine. These postmarks tend to come and go, sometimes being withdrawn for no apparent reason and not replaced. When the postmark becomes unusable (as said by Stampchris earlier in this thread), unless a new one is requested it is simply discarded. As far as I know post offices are not obliged to keep pictorials in use indefinately.

The postmarks that I find particularly interesting are the ones that are replaced with no announcement. A recent example is shown here. South Lismore licensed post office issued its first pictorial postmark in 2008, which was still in use in 2018.

I was told by the proprietor that a tractor was chosen for the design because a vintage one adorns the centre of a nearby roundabout.

The dateline subsequently ran out and a new postmark came into use. The obvious difference is in the positioning of the dateline, cutting into the design – rather a shame in my opinion. The frame width of the original postmark is 45mm while its replacement has been reduced to 38mm.

It is not at all unusual to find unannounced postmarks like this – I have many such items.

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Goulburn did the same a few years ago (2011?) and it was only when I asked for some hand cancels for a certain stamp release on my home made covers that the postmaster at the time said "do you want the pictorial canceler? It will be the first time we've used the new one!"

Just by coincidence the new one had arrived a couple of weeks earlier as the old one ran out of date and its condition after 30 or so years was poor. But the new one is still a huge cancel.

A PO needs to actually order the replacement cancel, when the old one runs out or is too damaged and it costs about $120 (approx) otherwise they don't get a new one and many smaller post offices just didn't bother ordering replacements as no one was asking for the cancel any more.

It's hard enough to get a normal CDS now - "it confuses the sorting machines!"
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It is such a fine resource. Use mine weekly.

Not for sale any more sadly, but the data is priceless.

Always seem sad when 1000s of hours are expended, and only a few 100 folks have access to it all.

Not sure how Colleen feels about it being scanned up for posterity, and the use of others, same as members just did for 15 years of Rod Perry columns, but be a great resource going forward! :idea:

Doubtless the printer discs still exist, so loading here from those would then be a cinch.

Maybe a PayPal donation honour system to her could apply for those who use it here. Whatever that raises is far more than is being generated to her now. :mrgreen:

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Hard part 1 = keeping it updated.
Hard part 2 = updating prices.

Easy part = (I had offered before, but no response from Colleen) My office printer/scanner unit can scan to searchable PDF in no time and I can also scan via OCR to a copy/paste word document also in no time. The new office printer is the size of a fridge.

But I don't own a copy. It got to about 1200 pages last time from memory.

If she wanted to sell them, I could always produce a USB stick with the volume as a searchable PDF with encoded password. Or old school DVD.

I think one of the problems was her updating older word processing software, but scanning and cleaning up an actual copy would avoid that complication.
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Greg, a bit like ACSC Decimals ... no-one realistically expects it to be updated past the last edition. :mrgreen:

LUCKILY - 99% in here were very fully priced so a $15 cover back then is $15 now. So a straight copy would be useful, and many today would be interested

Brad - Big Saint I think has some contact ... maybe something may come of this. :lol:

I do recall Colleen was saying there was some issue at printers, but if she still has the original files that I am sure can be sorted these days?

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Your comment, Allanswood on Goulburn’s postmark reminds me that I must write to the post office soon to satisfy my curiosity as to whether a postmark introduced in 2011 will show 2020 on the dateline. I have this pictorial dated 2011 and also 2019.

Goulburn’s pictorial was introduced in 1984 and a new dateline was in use by 1990. A slightly revised design with a much larger date followed, circa 2000? and this was replaced by the 2011 cancel. So as far as I know there have been four issued, none of the three replacements being officially announced.

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I'm pretty sure that it goes to 2099
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Allanswood

I would doubt it would go to 2099. It would be 2020 at best & 2022 if you are lucky.

To go to 2099, each of the 2, 0, 9 & 9 would have to be on a separate wheel. This not the case it is one wheel with the four digits of the year so 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 etc. Cheaper to produce that way & easier to replace if lost, stolen or damaged. :)


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I wrote to Port Fairy, Vic 3284 post office in 2016 to discover whether their pictorial postmark was still in use. It was introduced on 29 August 2005 (Pictormarks Catalogue No. APM 37400). The illustration on the left shows the postmark apparently unchanged and in good condition. When I wrote again in 2020, the postmark shown on the right was supplied. It is not often that significantly redesigned postmarks are introduced without announcement. It is an attractive thematic item for collectors of lighthouses.


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BigSaint wrote: 15 Aug 2020 12:13 Allanswood

I would doubt it would go to 2099. It would be 2020 at best & 2022 if you are lucky.

To go to 2099, each of the 2, 0, 9 & 9 would have to be on a separate wheel. This not the case it is one wheel with the four digits of the year so 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 etc. Cheaper to produce that way & easier to replace if lost, stolen or damaged. :)


PS Glen I no longer have contact details for Colleen, she has dropped out of all things philatelic, a big shame. :(
The old steel cds types had a separate wheel for the years, so they often could go for a century. 20/3/01 and 20/3/99 were both a cinch

Then modern rubber ones are as Brad outlines. FULL year. So only a few year span from day of supply.

Same about Colleen.
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Warragamba Dam southwest of Sydney is the location of Lake Burragorang, the main reservoir for the city. The post office issued its first pictorial postmark on 8 July 2008 (Pictormarks APM 40310) which was still in use in 2017. When I wrote to the post office in November 2020 I was told that a new postmark had been ordered and would be sent when it arrived. This was duly done, dated 16 November 2020, presumably its first day of use. This unannounced replacement still depicting the dam differs from the original quite noticeably. The post office was kind enough to gift me a postcard of the dam with the new postmark applied.

Warragamba, NSW original permanent pictorial postmark 8 July 2008
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I have just published a web site listing all the current Australian permanent pictorial postmarks that I know of. It is www.permalist.weebly.com . Please drop in and have a look.
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If you mean this -

https://permalist.weebly.com/docx-list.html

It makes no sense to me anyway. All a jumble, and no images, and no date order or prices it seems - a colletor checklist of your tiny collection
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This below is the ENTIRE ''content'' on there, on a blog site that might vanish tomorrow, for all anyone nows.


17 Dec 21

Permanent Pictorial Postmark List

Key
u= unseen
s= seen
b= mentioned in Stamp Bulletin [number]

Australian Antarctic Territory
b Casey-Weddell seals [369]
b Davis-LIDAR [369]
b Macquarie Island-royal penguins [369]
b Mawson- “apple” huts [369]

Australian Capital Territory
u Belconnen 2617-Telecom Tower
b Canberra 2600-Parliament House [375]
u Canberra 2600-War Memorial
u Deakin 2600-Parliament House
u Gungahlin 2912-historic post box
b Kingston 2604-lake scene [375]
b Parliament House LPO 2600-Australian Coat of Arms [348]

Christmas Island
b Christmas Island 6798-crab [306]

New South Wales
s Albury 2640-Hume Weir
b Armidale 2350-university symbols [365]
s Avoca Beach 2251-beach scene
b Bathurst 2795-motorcycle & racing car [373]
b Barmedman 2668-post office central store [363]
b Beelbangera 2680-old coach house [362]
b Bendemeer 2355-Massey Ferguson tractor [375]
s Binya 2665- wheat and sheep
b Bondi Beach 2026-surf scene [375]
b Bowral 2576-Bradman [358]
s Broken Hill 2880-mining
s Byron Bay 2481-lighthouse & most easterly point
b Cabramatta 2166-annual Lunar New Year [---]*
s Campbelltown 2560-Fisher’s Ghost
s Casino 2470-beef
s Central Tilba 2546-post office
s Coffs Harbour 2450-banana & banana tree
s Coolah 2843-Black Stump
b Cooma 2630-Man from Snowy River [338]
b Coraki 2471-post office [364]
u Corowa 2646-Birthplace of Federation
b Dubbo 2830-Taronga Western Plains Zoo [369]
s Forster 2428-dolphins
b Goulburn 2580-first inland city [375]
s Grafton 2460-Clarence River Bridge
s Grafton 2460-jacaranda trees
b Grenfell 2810-Henry Lawson [365]
s Griffith 2680-irrigation
s Gulargambone 2828-galah
s Gulgong 2852-Henry Lawson
s Gundagai 2722-Pioneer Monument (Dog on Tuckerbox)
s Gunnedah 2380-Dorothea McKellar
b Gunnedah 2380-koala [374]
b Hawks Nest 2324-hawk [363]
b Haymarket 2000-annual Lunar New Year [---]*
s Haymarket 2000-Railway Square (trains)
b Henty 2658-Home of the Header [364]
b Inverell 2360-Saphire City [337]
s Jerilderie 2716-Ned Kelly
s Kangaroo Valley 2577-Hampden Bridge
s Kootingal 2352-shooting star
s Kurnell 2231-Cook Memorial
b Kyogle 2474-rainforest [367]
s Lismore 2480-Summerland
s Lithgow 2790-Jenolan Caves
s Lithgow 2790-Zig Zag Railway
b Maitland 2320-post office [371]
s Merriwa 2329-Cottage Museum
b Moree 2400-agriculture [375]
s Murwillumbah 2484-Mt Warning
s Narrabri 2390-Australia Telescope
b Nelson Bay 2315-swordfish [366]
b Newcastle 2300-Nobbys Breakwater [359]
b Nowra 2541-Shoalhaven Philatelic Society 50yrs (lyrebird) [369]
s NSW Parliament House PO 2000-Parliament House
b Nundle 2340-panning for gold [315]
s Orange 2800-apple
s Orange 2800-Victoria Cross
s Orange East 2800-NSW map
b Paddington 2021-Victoria Barracks gate [365]
s Parkes 2870-radio telescope
s QVB 2000-Queen Victoria Building
b QVB 2000-Opera House [340]
b QVB 2000-Red Cross [339]
b QVB 2000-Sydney Harbour Bridge [339]
b Rappville 2469-beef & timber [364]
s Raymond Terrace 2324-William IV steamship
s St Marys 2760-Bennet Wagon
s Scone 2337-horses
s Singleton 2330-sundial
s South Lismore 2480-tractor
s Stroud 2425-brick & rolling pin throwing
s Suffolk Park 2481-surfboard rider
b Sydney GPO 2000-GPO clocktower [369]
s Taree 2430- Martin Bridge
s Tenterfield 2372-Sir Henry Parkes
s The Rock 2655-The Rock
s Tibooburra 2880-corner town on NSW map
b Tyalgum 2484-Mt Warning [374]
s Ulladulla 2539-lighthouse
s University of Sydney 2006-clock tower
s Wagga Wagga 2650-crows
b Wahroonga 2076-Mercury Monument [356]
s Warragamba 2752-Warragamba Dam
s Wauchope 2446-Timbertown
s West Wyalong 2671-mining
b Windsor 2756-Macquarie Towns [371]
b Wollongong 2500-sailing boat & lighthouse [373]
s Young 2594-cherries

Northern Territory
b Alice Springs 0870-Old Telegraph Station [357]
b Darwin GPO 0800-HMS Beagle &Charles Darwin [335]
u Katherine 0850-Katherine Gorge
b RAAF Tindall 0853-FA 18 Hornet [354]
b Tennant Creek 0860-gold mining [360]
b Yulara 0872-Uluru [358]

Queensland
s Bamaga 4876-Top of Cape York
s Birdsville 4482-Birdsville Hotel
b Blackall 4472-shearer’s shears [333]
b Blackbutt 4314-Avocado Festival [351]
s Bribie Island 4507-sailing
b Brisbane GPO 4000-GPO building [315]
s Brisbane GPO PSC 4000-Sir Thomas Brisbane
b Bundaberg 4670-bottle [356]
s Burrum Heads 4659-pelican
s Caboolture 4510-strawberries
b Caloundra 4551-lighthouse [375]
b Cairns 4870-swordfish [365]
s Charleville 4470-bilby & cosmos
b Cooktown 4895-Lt Cook with sextant [358]
b Cooktown 4895-indigenous art (kangaroo) [366]
s Cooktown 4895-Re-enactment Rocks
b Coolangatta 4225-waves & sun [336]
b Gladstone 4680-kookaburra & shell [341]
b Goondiwindi 4390-clock [375]
u Gympie 4570-gold prospector
b Hamilton Central 4007-riverside scene [375]
b Hamilton Island 4803-Heart of the Reef [365]
s Herberton 4887-mining
s Hervey Bay 4655-whale
b Ilfracombe 4727-vintage mail truck [360]
b Isisford 4731-delivery truck [359]
b Kenmore 4069-cityscape [375]
b Kingaroy 4610-peanut harvester [363]
b Maroochydore 4558-boating scene [355]
b Marven 4468-100 years [343]
s Miles 4415-buildings
s Montville 4560-old post office
s Muttaburra 4732-dinosaur skeleton
s Nananga 4615-bunya pine & Qld 4th oldest town
s Port Douglas 4877-Great Barrier Reef “Posted on Agincourt Reef”
u Robina 4226-hot air ballon
b Rockhampton 4700-Beef Week [353]
b Roma 4455-bottle tree [355]
b Rubyvale 4702-sapphire mining [340]
s Surfers Paradise 4217-beach banner
b Surfers Paradise 4217-Gold Coast logo [354]
b Tully 4854-frog [375]
b Warwick 4370-roses [367]
b Yeppoon 4703-pineapple & trawler [375]
b Yungaburra 4884-platypus [358]

South Australia
u Adelaide GPO 5000-piping shrike
s Adelaide PSC 5000-post office
b Adelaide Airport 5950-Vickers Vimy [337]
b American River 5221-pelicans [370]
b Andamooka 5722-PO & opal mining [???]
s Barmera 5345-Lake Bonny
u Berri 5343-fruit
b Booleroo Centre 5482-steam tractor [341]
u Burnside 5066-Waterfall Gully
b Ceduna 5690-Australia’s Oyster Capital [375]
b Cleve 5640-hand plough in furrows [364]
s Coffin Bay 5607-dolphins
b Coober Pedy 5723-opal fields [340]
b Coonawarra 5263-railway station [344]
s Craigmore 5114-horse & rider
s Edithburgh 5583-lighthouse
u Elizabeth 5112-QE II
b Elliston 5670-Waterloo Bay [369]
u Enfield Plaza 5085- line of trees
b Eudunda 5374-Valley of Hidden Treasures & Gustav with dog [370]
b Flinders University 5042-Fliders with ship [372]
u Gawler 5118-Bleriot 60 bi-plane
s Goodwood 5034-merino
u Kingscote 5223-beach fishing
b Kingston SE 5275-crayfish boat [336]
b Kingston SE 5275-historic post office [336]
s Leigh Creek 5731-heavy mining equipment
s Lobethal 5241-lights
s McLaren Vale 5171-wine
s Macclesfield 5153-horse show
u Mannum 5238-paddle steamer PS Marion
b Melrose 5483-oldest town in Flinders Ranges [374]
s Meningie 5364-pelicans
s Minnipa 5654-Pildappa Rock
b Minlaton 5575-Red Devil aircraft (Harry Butler) [299]
u Modbury 5092-O Bahn bus
u Morgan 5320-boat ramp scene
b Mount Gambier 5290-Admella shipwreck [299]
s Mount Gambier 5290-trees & lake
b Mount Torrens 5244-coach house [362]
s Murray Bridge 5253-bridges
s Normanville 5204-leafy sea dragon
s Penneshaw 5222-Kangaroo Island little penguins
s Penola 5277-Mary McKillop School
s Peterborough 5422-train
b Port Adelaide 5015-HMCS Protector [306]
u Port Adelaide 5015-lighthouse
b Port Augusta 5700-train [374]
b Port Broughton 5522-blue crab [343]
b Port Lincoln 5606-silo, fishing & wheat [359]
b Port MacDonnell 5291-lobster [366]
b Port Pirie 5540-lead smelter [356]
b Port Victoria 5573-windjammer [364]
u Port Wakefield 5550-sailing ship
s Quorn 5433-locomotive
s Renmark 5341-riverboat
u Reynella 5161-logo
s Robe 5276-Govenor Robe sailing ship
b Saddleworth 5413-ram & wheat [299]
b Saint Agnes 5097-winery [372]
u Salisbury 5108-radar
s Strathalbyn 5255-church
b Sturt St 5000-Home of Aerophilately [358]
s Tanunda 5352-wine
u Victor Harbour 5211-Granite Island
u Victor Harbour 5211-whale watch
s Walkerville 5081-church
b Wallaroo 5556-Copper Coast [323]
b Wasleys 5400-Post Office [368]
s Welland 5007-brickyard
b Wilmington 5485-Night Rodeo [370]
b Woomera 5720-WRESAT [371]
b Wudinna 5652-Mt Wudinna [298]
b Wyalla 5600-logo [375]

Tasmania
s Bicheno 7215-crayfish
s Burnie 7320-post office
b Campbell Town 7210-200 years [372]
b Devonport 7310-Mersey Bluffs lighthouse [325]
b Franklin 7113-rower [361]
s Greeveston 7116-gateway to the south west
b Hobart 7000-GPO [332]
b Hobart, Bathurst St PO 7000-Mt Wellington & Tasman Bridge [345]
s Hobart, Bathurst St PO 7000-Playhouse Theatre
u Hobart-Town Hall
b Kempton 7030-historic village [306]
u Kingston 7050-ANARE
b Kingston 7050-seal [375]
s Penguin 7316-penguins
b Perth 7300-boys fishing [371]
b Port Arthur 7182-historic church [360]
u Richmond 7025
b Ross 7209-bridge [372]
u Scottsdale 7260-hops
b Sheffield 7306-town of murals [312]
b Strahan 7468-post office [372]
b Swansea 7180-sun & fish [339]
u Ulverstone 7315-clock tower
b Ulverstone 7315-Shrine of Remembrance [375]
b West Devonport 7310-lighthouse [375]
b White Mark, Flinders Island 7255-scenery [375]
b Woodbridge 7162-Marine Discovery Centre [353]
u Wynyard 7325-light house

Victoria
s Aireys Inlet 3231-Split Point Lighthouse
b Apollo Bay 3233-Cape Otway Light Station [337]
u Ashburton 3147-Queen Victoria
u Bairnsdale 3875-tourism
b Ballarat 3350-Begonia Festival [311]
s Ballarat MC 3355-Eureka flag
b Beechworth 3747-gold mining [313]
b Bendigo 3550-gold mine tram [353]
b Blackwood 3458-Wombat State Forest [319]
b Blairgowrie 3942-sailing boat [306]
b Boolarra 3870-cyclists [319]
s Bright 3741-autumn leaf
b Brim 3391-silos [359]
s Bruthen 3885-post office
b Buchan 3885-Buchan Caves [343]
b Casterton 3311-Kelpie Country [305]
b Castlemaine 3450-miner & waterwheel [312]
s Cavendish 3314-sheep
u Chewton 3451
b Clunes 3370-Booktown Festival [345]
s Corryong 3707-Gateway to the Snowy Mountains & cattle
s Cowes 3922-penguins
b East Melbourne 3002-Cook’s Cottage [311]
b Eltham 3095-Eltham copper butterfly [312]
b Epsom 3551-Bendigo Pottery [329]
s Fairfield 3078-bird over star
b Fitzroy 3065-Mary Mackillop [308]
s Flemington 3031-Melbourne Cup
s French Island 3921-koala
u Geelong 3220-City by the Bay
b Geelong 3220-Royal Geelong Show [306]
b Gembrook 3783-Puffing Billy [316]
s Glen Huntley 3163-sailing ship
s Glen Waverly 3150-Police Academy
s Glenrowan 3675-Ned Kelly
s Halls Gap 3381-lanscape
b Hamilton 3300-merino [375]
b Kangaroo Ground 3097-kangaroos [362]
b Karoit 3282-historic post office [337]
b Korumburra 3950-coal truck & miner [301]
b Kyneton 3444-daffodil [299]
s Lakes Entrance 3909-scenery & trawler
s Mallacoota 3892-Gabo Island Lighthouse
b Mansfield 3722-skier [305]
u Maryborough 3465-150th anniversary of postal service
b Marysville 3779-skiing [375]
b Melbourne Bourke St 3000-annual Lunar New Year [---]*
s Melbourne GPO 3000-aircraft
b Melbourne GPO 3000-Dandenong Philatelic Society 50yrs [374]
b Melbourne GPO 3000-historic mailbox [370]
s Metung 3940-pelican
s Mildura 3500-riverboat
b Mildura 3500-Sunraysia Daily 100 years [368]
s Monbulk 3793-boobook owl
s Moonee Ponds 3039-WS Cox Plate
s Mornington 3931-postal museum
s Mt Beauty 3699-scenery
b Mt Buller 3723-logo [358]
b Mt Evelyn 3796-owl [357]
b Murrumbeena 3163-indigenous symbols [306]
s Myrtleford 3737-primary industry
b Noorat 3265-Alan Marshall [312]
s Orbost 3888-slab hut
b Parkville 3052-Melbourne Zoo butterfly [305]
s Penshurst 3289-Mt Rouse
b Port Campbell 3269-National Park 12 Apostles [326]
s Port Fairy 3284-port, lighthouse & post office
s Portland 3305-cable tram
b Portland 3305-Victorian Country Press Association [307]
u Portland 3305-yachting & whale
u Queenscliff 3225-Port Lonsdale Lighthouse
s Red Cliffs 3496-Big Lizzie
u Ringwood 3134
s Rutherglen 3685-wine
s St Kilda Rd 3004-Shrine of Remembrance
b Sale 3850-black swan [311]
b Seymour 3660-train & station [365]
s Shepparton 3630-fruit
b Sovereign Hill LPO 3350-Goldmining Township stagecoach [357]
b Stanhope 3623-Australia’s Legendary Capital [337]
u Swan Hill 3585-steam roller & hut
s Talbot 3371-post office
b Tawonga Sth 3698-Mt Bogong [313]
b Terang 3264-Tree Town Monument [318]
b Tidal River 3960-lighthouse [318]
b Timboon 3268-Curdies River Trestle Bridge [329]
u Torquay 3228-surfing
b Traralgon 3844-post office [371]
b Tynong 3813-Packenham Racecourse [334]
b Walhalla 3825-gold discovery [319]
s Walhalla 3825-locomotive
s Walhalla 3825-old post office
s Warburton 3799-bridge
b Warracknabeal 3393-sheep’s head [312]
u Warrnambool 3280-Flagstaff Hill
u Warrnambool 3280-southern right whale
s Wycheproof 3527-train
s Yea 3717-post office

Western Australia
b Broome 6725-pearl diver [356]
b Cannington 6107-Swan River Stamp Show [368]
s Carnarvon 6701-bananas
b Cervantes 6511-The Pinnacles [374]
s Exmouth 6707-swordfish
b Fremantle 6160-swordfish [367]
u Geraldton 6530-Geraldton wax flower
u Geraldton 6530-HMAS Sydney
s Kununurra 6743-diamond
b Leonora 643-shire coat of arms […]
u Manjimup 6258-Cherry Harmony Festival
b Margret River 6285-wine [341]
s Norseman 6443-horse
s Northam 6401-white swan & post office
s Nungarin 6490-homestead
b Nyabing 6431- Centenary tree, windmill & water tank [320]
b Perth GPO 6000 [301]
s Port Hedland 6721-port
b Subiaco 6008-football ground
b Wannamal 6505-black swan & flower [339]
b Wickepin 6370-Albert Facey homestead [347]
b Wyndham 6740-crocodile [358]

*As Chinese New Year postmarks are renewed every year no bulletin number is provided.

Appendix: First Day Cancels
Bribie Island 4507, Cairns 4870, Casey AAT, Davis AAT, Macquarie Island AAT, Mawson AAT, Perth GPO 6000, Port Arthur 7182, University of Sydney 2006,

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I'm sorry you feel that way. The postmarks are listed by state and territory, then alphabetically followed by post code, design and Australian Stamp Bulletin number when available. The only images I have are from my own collection which is only a tiny fraction of those available. As to dates issued (or withdrawn), these are not normally available.
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The sheriff is correct on this.

A well meaning attempt but basically a brain dump of little value.
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No-one has shown a photo of the massive 2 volume set that weighs in at 4.5 KILOS.

A ton more imposing than Colleen ever showed on her website before it vanished.

1500 large pages each with many illustrations.

Colleen seems to be still active in Diamond Creek, is an AOM, a local JP, and easily contactable via the phone numbers supplied here -

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-d ... 8&dpr=1.82

https://arrestingwomen.com.au/about-us

She clearly has totally moved on from this massive stamp project, and has since self-published books on women in the police force etc, which were well reviewed.

All it would need is for her blessing for the EXISTING postmark books to be scanned and made available, free or for a nominal cost to cover the huge work that scanning would entail, and her 1000s of hours of research work would then live on forever.

Right now no sets can be bought, as so few were ever sold initially, so no-one new collects this area. It would bring 100s of new folks into this interesting field. :!: :!:

And that is a GREAT thing for the hobby. 8-)

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There's currently one on ebay for $175 at https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/334261004873 if anyone wants to get one. Or swipe some pictures of one....
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That is a VERY old edition.

Same genius ebay seller than this $1 retail stamp for sale at $1000


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Australian Pictor Marks. Volume 1 & 2. Front cover.
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That is the old edition, the current one that goes up to 2012 is this one:
Oz Pictormarks Edition 2 V 1
Oz Pictormarks Edition 2 V 1
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Yes a terrible shame Colleen did not print more or licence it to someone who could do so.

ALL the work had been done.

A sensational work with 20,000 listings or something.
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Global Admin wrote: 18 Dec 2021 03:26
No-one has shown a photo of the massive 2 volume set that weighs in at 4.5 KILOS.

A ton more imposing than Colleen ever showed on her website before it vanished.

1500 large pages each with many illustrations.

Colleen seems to be still active in Diamond Creek, is an AOM, a local JP, and easily contactable via the phone numbers supplied here -

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-d ... 8&dpr=1.82

https://arrestingwomen.com.au/about-us

She clearly has totally moved on totally from this massive stamp project, and has since self-published books on women in the police force etc, which were well reviewed.

All it would need is for her blessing for the EXISTING postmark books to be scanned and made available, free or for a nominal cost to cover the huge work that scanning would entail, and her 1000s of hours of research work would then live on forever.

Right now no sets can be bought, as so few were ever sold initially, so no-one new collects this area. It would bring 100s of new folks into this interesting field. :!: :!:

And that is a GREAT thing for the hobby. 8-)

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Hard part 1 = keeping it updated.
Hard part 2 = updating prices.

Easy part = (I had offered before, but no response from Colleen) My office printer/scanner unit can scan to searchable PDF in no time and I can also scan via OCR to a copy/paste word document also in no time. The new office printer is the size of a fridge.

But I don't own a copy. It got to about 1200 pages last time from memory.

If she wanted to sell them, I could always produce a USB stick with the volume as a searchable PDF with encoded password. Or old school DVD.

I think one of the problems was her updating older word processing software, but scanning and cleaning up an actual copy would avoid that complication.

I feel this is a very viable option on 2023.

Only today Didge emailed me asking if I had a set to sell. I get many enquiries thus.

I use mine each week - just priced up a lovely bunch of these covers very cheap if someone wants to get a starter lot going. 8-)

I am happy to loan my set to Greg to scan as a project.

That would easily sell for $40 a stick or CD .. both being SUPER cheap to mail globally. :!:

The issue was, the original books weighed 5 kilo or so packed up, hence mailing them to Americas or Europe was $100s PLUS the $150 books cost. So they sold very poorly. But the DEMAND is still there. NOW they can be $40 plus $5 post globally. 8-)

If Greg undertakes the huge amount of scanning work, he deserves the lion's share of any profit, to cover his time - say $30 of each $40, and the other $10 being made as a donation to Charity of Colleens's choice - Vic Policewomen Care or Support Fund etc seems to be her current passion, or whatever she prefers.

I really think a phone call or letter from Greg would elicit an emailed OK authority to do this, and all kosher then. Her phone and other contacts are readily available, as she is a JP.

My guess is a HUNDRED sets would be readily saleable globally with a bit of cross promotion here. $1000 out of nowhere to Colleen's Nominated Charity, and some well deserved pocket money for Greg's hard work. $1000 more than was in the nominated Fund yesterday. :!:

AND assists the new collectors to this exciting new field.

Prices are 100% FINE as they are. NO fiddly changes really needed. A straight scan. :mrgreen:

Remember the ACSC recent Decimals set, 2 massive volumes, ONLY goes to 2000, and no-one cares. So updating newer issues is not vitally important.

Yes as always, some folks, who will neither buy one, nor do any work, will bleat for 'someone' to do updates - they can go and produce that book themselves! So of course it will never appear. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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This 1956 set is cat $750. Who knew? I sold it very fast.

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Folks,

As Glen mentioned I am wanting to buy a set of this amazing publication. If it is reissued I would certainly be getting in quickly to get a set.

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Folks,

Just brought this on eBay. It’s the older edition but still worth having.

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Well done.

Nowhere remotely NEAR the detail and size of the last edition, but a great starter. 8-)

I do hope Colleen gives her blessing for it to be scanned, and made available as a stick or CD, and hence broaden this fascinating market for a new generation of collectors of this popular field. :mrgreen:

I listed up 112 of these Pictorial Cancels this week cat $1,690 - for just $A175 -


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WANTED: Just wondering if anyone has a copy of the following book, that they are willing to sell at a REASONABLE price. I know it is out of print.

"Australian first day covers : a guide to identifying Australian, illustrated, first day of issue covers and their publishers" / by Michael Moore, Colleen Woolley and Frank Pauer.

Or Can anyone suggest an alternate book I can buy for identifying Australian First Day Covers? I know there is an online guide organised by David Edwards which I have been using.
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I believe https://www.michaeleastick.com has them. But new
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Hi, I tried there, but I couldn't find the book. I will recheck, as maybe I was looking at an incorrect link.
Thank you for your response.

PS.I have now ordered a book. I used a more simplified search on the website and found the book
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Didge wrote: 16 Mar 2023 10:20 Folks,

As Glen mentioned I am wanting to buy a set of this amazing publication. If it is reissued I would certainly be getting in quickly to get a set.

Tim

Let's hope it gets off the ground. :)

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Like everyone else, I have been searching for a copy of Australian Pictormarks. Mostly I am interested in WA postmarks. During one of my searches for this elusive volume, a similarly titled publication showed up. At my local library! Colleen prepared some subset publications of her first edition and in my good fortune, she did WA. I do think I have been very fortunate to find this. I do understand that this is the "old" edition, but it has most of the information that I want.
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Interesting. Not seen that before.

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Just an update. Colleen Woolley emailed me about 6 months back to say she had 3 sets, including her personal set she would sell me. And autograph them if I wished.

Then changed her mind and said she wanted to keep one. Or maybe two. Was hard to follow the thought process and emails.

She came to life here too, re-joined up, and made a few posts here on stampboards, and then vanished again!

I made her a very good offer for what she had, saying I'd donate one set to Allanswood to scan if he was still happy to do that, and they could be sold by here or others as an online file etc, and part of any proceeds could go wherever she nominated if others did it.

Nothing happened, as she then came back saying as I recall that she was now planning to do them in chapters or in decades or some other loopy concept, and sell them on Amazon etc. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

'It can't be scanned as it has built-in protections against photocopying, so I'm happy to sell the two to you. I am in the process of converting it to PDF (I still have all the original files) and am playing around with breaking it down into "segments" (read "decades") so that people don't have to buy the whole lot if they don't want it. These can be burnt to disc.'

I advised my view this was absurd, as folks wanted the ENTIRE animal in 1 hit. And yes of course anything like this CAN be scanned! Someone will likely do it one day, and cut her entirely out of the loop.

The work is done, it is superb, and her non-existent initial 'marketing' is why they never sold in the first place.

Done well, the new deal would see 100 or more sets sold, creating good revenue from the ZERO income there is now, and more important, letting 100 more folks keen to buy the books, and hence vastly increasing the collector demand for these interesting covers.

Not another peep out of her since. And clearly no sign she has done a thing in 6-9 months re here 'Amazon' strange concept in decades of data!

Some folks work in mysterious ways.

Spend literally many 1000s of hours of your life on a great project, get it done so well, and then deliberately bury and hide it from the collector market. I never get it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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In addition to the two massive volumes produced by Colleen Woolley,
I have monograph No. 6 done in 2005 on the topic of Cricket.

The cover of the Revised Edition of 2007 of 53 pages in colour is above.
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Never seen that one Noel.

The AAT monograph shown above was also excellent - my mind boggles at why all the work is done, and they are then allowed to sink without trace essentially.
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