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Thank you everyone who replied.So I take it that the figures she put in the catalogue are from the individual post offices and not the total which was done by philatelic sale center.
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No, it would be the combined total of the relevant post office & the Philatelic Bureau.

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A very good set of catalogues, in 2 huge binders, that suffered solely due to a lack of promotion.

The Rusted On collectors bought it - all 100 of them and no-one else globally knew it existed basically.

Literally 1000s of hours of work to do the content, and zero hours spent trying to sell it via free global promos and reviews. Made no sense to me at the time. Then and now.

I offered to help her promote it, if she mailed me one and her answer in 2013 was to go and read dealer Martyn Greive's copy! I swear - email still on file!

Totally clueless. Never heard from her again. The Books totally vanished without trace soon afterwards.

Had she used some nous, and easily doubled or trebled her sales, as WOULD have occurred and not just got her 100 sets sold - WIN-WIN all round ... profit for her, and a vast global uptick in interest in this field too. :idea:

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Good to hear things are looking good – Martyn Greive from A-One Stamps, told me you had decent orders already. :D

When you get a final version, if you mail me one, I’ll do a piece in ‘Stamp News’ and the ‘Philatelic Exporter’ and ''Linn's Stamp News'' - where a lot of overseas dealers and collectors always order things from.

Have sold about 100 so far of the new ACSC “Kangaroos” at $100 – that has been a VERY big surprise, and there will be another 100 gone before Australia 2013.

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I don't understand the difficulty in getting a copy into PDF.

I realise there may be some formatting difficulties and WordPefect is currently owned By Corel with the current version X9 (2018) only comes as an Office Suite Bundle. (Shows you how much I keep up, I thought it had disappeared years ago!)


But grabbing a clean printed copy and putting it page by page through a quality scanner ( I have one) that saves it as a searchable PDF file would be all that's required to publish the catalogue as a PDF file that's fully searchable. Yes it will be large as I would scan it at least 600dpi.

BUT - If Colleens actual original computer files died... then... that's all you'd have now. I don't know if they did, just saying.

(Colleens website is no more and her online blog is no more)

Many institutions have bought copies of her work, one is in the National Library Canberra another in the Victorian State Library.

Keeping it going would have been well worth it I would imagine.
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So "PictorMarks" just means pictorial postmarks..... how easy (if slightly pointless). However, if that was how they were marketed by Australia Post (I see the ®) then it does make sense, even if only to some Australians.
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An article by Rod Perry here....about 5 - 7 pages, pics, comments etc....

https://www.rap.com.au/vPages.asp?vPagesID=Mar%2013

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Thank you BigSaint
I would think if a post office is mentioned with a numbers,then the philatelic sale center numbers are unknown. So APM25805 is only 45 for Myer center and total is not known. Is that correct? By the way why mention any number if the postmarks from both sources are the same.
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norvic wrote:So "PictorMarks" just means pictorial postmarks..... how easy (if slightly pointless). However, if that was how they were marketed by Australia Post (I see the ®) then it does make sense, even if only to some Australians.

"PictorMarks"is the registered name of whoever started the first catalogue years ago, Colleen and Co. took over the name and catalogue. Nothing to do with AP.

It also separates the catalogue (and identifies it), against any competition it may have had and therefore a catchy title easy to remember.


Extra ? to those that have the 2013 edition: I don't have a copy. Is the actual 1400 pages in full colour?
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Greg

Colleen's work is in glorious "Black & White".

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ghool2003 wrote:Thank you BigSaint
I would think if a post office is mentioned with a numbers,then the philatelic sale center numbers are unknown. So APM25805 is only 45 for Myer center and total is not known. Is that correct? By the way why mention any number if the postmarks from both sources are the same.
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I am not sure what you are trying to get at here.

Are you trying to say that 45 cancels were done at the Myer Centre but there could have been 45,000 done at the Philatelic Bureau :?:

And if this were the case then how would you know that of the 45,045 cancels which were done where :?:

I would read Colleen's entry as 45 cancels were done in total at the Myer Centre & that is it. I would also read it as there was no copy of this postmark at the Philatelic Bureau. I draw this conclusion from the catalogue price of $40 while the others around it are $10.

Colleen has done a fantastic job compiling this catalogue of postmarks. I cannot imagine how many hours she spent researching & compiling this catalogue & there is no way she profited from doing so. It was done for her love of the hobby. It was a difficult task as the information she needed was not always readily available.

If you are trying to pick holes in her work or be critical of her work then I suggest that you stop that that right now.

The proof of the existence of 45 cancels or more, as you are alluding to, will be how quickly you find multiple copies of this postmark. So I suggest you start looking & report back on your findings.

If you are not being critical of Colleen's work then I suggest you had better explain yourself.

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Allanswood wrote:
But grabbing a clean printed copy and putting it page by page through a quality scanner ( I have one) that saves it as a searchable PDF file would be all that's required to publish the catalogue as a PDF file that's fully searchable. Yes it will be large as I would scan it at least 600dpi.

Keeping it going would have been well worth it I would imagine.

The data Colleen does offer is very exhaustive, and all except our rather confused member ghool2003 would accept this.

Oddly Colleen spent a lot of time printing it all on special paper with under-print and visible watermarking, that does not show so much on Brad's scan but scanning it, will pick up most of that sadly.

And I am never for promoting copyright theft of anything, no matter how useful and well done, and no matter how few original book sets sadly sold - Colleen as far as I know is still with us, and would need to give this her blessing.

And cost of 2 huge volumes would be huge I guess. Why after spending years doing all the detailed work, the final files would not be retained, or handed to others for safekeeping, is one of life's mysteries.
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There is no way that I would break someones copyright to make a publicly available edition without their express permission and blessing in writing. I don't have any copies of this work.

But, if Colleen needed a hand or wanted to pass the information on to another party willing to either re-print the catalogue or take up the baton and try to keep it going then...

As for scanning with OCR I haven't tried it when there is a watermark, but OCR scanning software is pretty good nowadays, even though some correction and formatting to match original are normally required.

The gist of what I think Colleen was explaining with the difficulty of saving as a PDF from the original files is that for some reason I expect that the images are sitting on the drive separate to the text pages and are linked to each page. So it may be that when she tried to save, all she got was a PDF of words without images. Don't know.

But if text was a single file and images were linked then I have no difficulty in adding the images to the actual document - and it will get quite large as a single file, so likely would be split into eras of time. Version 3 would likely need to be a third volume.

Anyways, if it's never going to appear again and no thought to reprint version 2, (she did say at the time that they had started work on version 3, but health and circumstance often take a toll), then it will disappear sadly as so many seem to do and someone will either have to start from scratch, or be allowed to copy an existing one. Otherwise this is where the catalogue ends... and that would be sad.

Also, the task is huge, but a full colour (where available) version would not be out of the question, especially if produced electronically. Even easier if the actual images were already saved in colour. And if printed, adds (for me) around 3c a page and not every page need be full colour. Cost on decent paper (even for 1400 pages) in B&W is not much at all.
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Hi Brad and thank you for your comments.
I have been collecting pictorial postmark since early 80’s and have great respect for Clarrie Peck and Janet and Colleen for keeping me going in this field. I appreciate their effort and time they spent on these publications which seems did not award them financially. I also believed that 45 was the total number of cancels done for APM25805 in Myer center and so started looking for them and I had bought 6 of them. Then I came across a cover which had the other postmarks 25802, 25803, 25806 plus 25820 and Myer center 25805 on it. While I believe it is possible to go from Melbourne to Sydney and then Brisbane to get postmarks done, it would be easier and cheaper to get them from Philatelic sale center. If a collector like me has 7 of them living in a small town in Qld, I believe more advanced collectors than me in bigger centers have probably better chance to do so. The other postmark with printing of 103 is Brisbane exhibition of 1984. I bought few from a southern seller who told me he could supply 10 of them at very good prices. So I think the figures given do not include the Philatelic sale center and maybe no accurate figures kept by them.
I look forward to your reply. Fred
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Thank you for your reply Fred.

Are you able to post the images of your examples of the APM25805 postmark here?

I am now starting to understand your query. Have you looked at the Philatelic Bulletins from around that time to see whether the Myer Centre postmark was available from the Philatelic Bureau?

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BigSaint wrote:Colleen (OzPictormarks) has not visited the Board in almost 6 years, so it is unlikely that Colleen will see your post.
A quick google of her name brought up a Facebook post about an event in early Feb 2018 where she was a featured speaker.
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Hello Brad and thanks again.
I need to find out how to put images here as there are a lot of images in other topics I like to show (quick tutorial would be appreciated). I did not see the bulletins at that time and have no access to any either.
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aethelwulf wrote:
BigSaint wrote:Colleen (OzPictormarks) has not visited the Board in almost 6 years, so it is unlikely that Colleen will see your post.
A quick google of her name brought up a Facebook post about an event in early Feb 2018 where she was a featured speaker.
COLLEEN WOOLLEY, OAM, JP, former Victorian Police Officer & author of ‘Arresting Women’
Maybe she moved on from Pictormarks to other publishing pursuits.
A nice thought aethulwulf, but Colleen removed herself from all things publishing & all things philatelic. I believe she was approached to take over publishing of the Australian Cover Society journals from Mick Moore but declined to do so.

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ghool2003 wrote: I need to find out how to put images here as there are a lot of images in other topics I like to show (quick tutorial would be appreciated).
Well you have been a member here for 8 years and we have had this simple tutorial here for longer than that -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=284
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Hi
I am not very confident in this but I went and got 2 images into an album in imageschak and it asked for subscription. I find it hard to follow after that. Do we use the other instruction or not. Is this what we use now or was it done before we changed it.
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Clearly, following BOG SIMPLE clear instructions are way above your head, Fred.

Restrict your off-topic comments to the image practice thread, and not keep de-railing this one as you have done so far.

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Hi Brad
Let see if this works
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ghool2003 wrote:Hi Brad
Let see if this works
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Ok the image makes it easier to answer your question. When you asked earlier I had no idea you were talking about these fdcs with multiple different postmarks.

The postmarks from left to right:

1. Muttaburra - Oz Pictormarks says if the diameter of the postmark is 32mm it was applied at the Philatelic Bureau. If it is 36mm then it was applied at Muttaburra.
2. Melbourne - Oz Pictormarks says it was at the Philatelic Bureau
3. Sydney - it seems to be the one from the Sydney GPO as Oz Pictormarks says so looking at the dateline.
4. Brisbane - Oz Pictormarks says it was at the Philatelic Bureau
5. Brisbane Myer Centre - Oz Pictormarks says it was at the Myer Centre.

Now I don't believe Colleen has made a mistake here, but I guarantee you that no person carried this cover from Melbourne to Sydney, to Brisbane, to Muttaburra in a day. It is physically impossible. It is 2,000 kilometres between Melbourne to Muttaburra. This cover was sent to the Philatelic Bureau where all the postmarks were applied.

So how was it done? Firstly, at that time, all of the interstate commemorative postmarks, after a month, were returned to the Philatelic Bureau in Melbourne. Secondly, enter Havilah Enterprises (Bevan Alexander - stamp dealer from Gawler SA & later Ballarat) who at one time were the largest customer of the Philatelic Bureau. They also produced fdcs under the name "Alpha" & some usual things happened with them but that is another story.

They had a practice of sending covers to the Philatelic Bureau for postmarking with multiple postmarks from all over places & they look really good. I have lots of them but not this one. They usually did 50 of each so it would appear that the number of 45 was not updated for the Myer Centre.

Here is another example of their work on a pse, cutting the "stamp" section from other pses.
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These postmarks were all applied at the Philatelic Bureau where duplicate copies of the postmarks were held.

I hope this clarifies.

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Thank you very much for your reply. So we agree that 45 was done in Brisbane and some more was done in philatelic sale center.
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I am not sure what you are trying to get at here.

Are you trying to say that 45 cancels were done at the Myer Centre but there could have been 45,000 done at the Philatelic Bureau :?:


I would read Colleen's entry as 45 cancels were done in total at the Myer Centre & that is it. I would also read it as there was no copy of this postmark at the Philatelic Bureau. I draw this conclusion from the catalogue price of $40 while the others around it are $10.


The proof of the existence of 45 cancels or more, as you are alluding to, will be how quickly you find multiple copies of this postmark. So I suggest you start looking & report back on your findings.


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ghool2003:

I don't read that there might be thousands of this cancel on covers, but that just 45 were done on covers that show ONLY that canceller.

Colleen does say that there would be multiples possible in various combinations, such as the one you show.

"all of which were used variously on a variety of covers"

Do you have a cover with just that single canceller used?
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There is an additional possibility for how these covers were done. Up until about 10 years ago, one could send a cover to a post office with a request for postmarking with a back-dated postmarker. You only had about 4 weeks grace from the date you wanted to do this though.

And then AP changed the rules, and now only the Philatelic Bureau is allowed to do this back-dating (one still only has approx. 4 weeks leeway).

I'm not saying that this is what happened with the covers shown in the posts above, but it was an alternative that was still available when they were made.
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You are correct in what you say & I guess this is how this cover was done:
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It could have been done by a collector but at that time there were 4 dealers who majored in pictorial postmarks. The previously mentioned Bevan Alexander (Havilah Enterprises) did South Australia, Geoff Siednor did Victoria, Ron Madden (Mad On Stamps) did NSW & David Byron did Queensland. I understand they then swapped the stock between themselves. This arrangement went on until the early 1990s when a couple fell by the wayside & Havilah expanded as a result.

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I am not sure what you are trying to get at here.

Are you trying to say that 45 cancels were done at the Myer Centre but there could have been 45,000 done at the Philatelic Bureau :?:


I would read Colleen's entry as 45 cancels were done in total at the Myer Centre & that is it. I would also read it as there was no copy of this postmark at the Philatelic Bureau. I draw this conclusion from the catalogue price of $40 while the others around it are $10.


The proof of the existence of 45 cancels or more, as you are alluding to, will be how quickly you find multiple copies of this postmark. So I suggest you start looking & report back on your findings.


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ghool2003:

I don't read that there might be thousands of this cancel on covers, but that just 45 were done on covers that show ONLY that canceller.

Colleen does say that there would be multiples possible in various combinations, such as the one you show.

"all of which were used variously on a variety of covers"

Do you have a cover with just that single canceller used?
Amazing what you find when you are looking for something else. This WCS example done by Michael Hudson & not Havilah Enterprises:
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I am sure the contents of this book are excellent, but I have never understood why it is called Australian PictorMarks.

This term is not used in philately anywhere in the world. Collectors and dealers outside of Australia would have no idea what this even means. Surely more copies of this book would be sold if it were renamed? Just my 5c worth. :|
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As previously discussed somewhere on the Board it is a cut down of "Australian Pictorial Postmarks" originally started & named by Clarrie Peck. It seems like a good name to me.

Colleen acquired it from Clarrie & updated it to 2012, with a fantastic effort & result. I understand it was a sell out. :)
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Not only a total sell-out, but if anyone here listed a set for sale, they'd get $200 same day.

The name does not seem to have affected global demand. :mrgreen:
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A sell-out, which means she printed too few copies. As for charging full-freight retail but using el-cheapo ring binders :roll: : "Two A4, loose leaf, four hole format volumes of 1300+ pages."

She would have sold more if it had a remotely sensible name.
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Well, there's 2 contradictory sentences.

She would have sold more, if more had been printed. No one cares what it was called and everyone I know, knows exactly what you're talking about if you say "Pictormarks" same as everyone knows what a "Perfin" is.

Not that it matters much as it appears from recent history that you're arguing over a "Dodo". IT'S 7 YEARS AGO! Who cares about the binder.
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Not in the least. She obviously didn't print enough for her customers.

Nobody globally knows what an "Australian PictorMark" is, or even cares.

The title is ridiculous. Fullstop.

The format is important. Books with proper binding sell more than things run off on a photocopier, put it ring binders only to have all the pages rip out.

The only reason this old edition would sell is that she hasn't reprinted it in years. I'm not criticizing the content but the whole format of this is ridiculous.
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Allanswood wrote:Who cares about the binder.
Me.

Fantastically useful to have it all loose leaf. I take out pages all the time to scan and photocopy etc. A great concept.

When MJPet Publishing is listed on the Stock Exchange, I can't wait to see it take over the field.

The chances of either occurring as about as good at Trump winning Time Man Of The Year.

Many folks in life are self-proclaimed 'experts' in fields that they have zero experience in. :idea:
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Global Administrator wrote:Not only a total sell-out, but if anyone here listed a set for sale, they'd get $200 same day.

The name does not seem to have affected global demand. :mrgreen:
Bought a set of the first Colleen Woolley edition and listed them here for $A100 the pair!

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=89621

Covers 1887 to 2000 and for most folks, a goldmine enough! These sets are almost NEVER seen on the market - been years since I had one or have even saw one for sale. They were very expensive when issued and hence sold few, and then Colleen vanished, pulled down the website and deleted her email address, and a superb product went languishing. I use my set each week.

Finding just ONE half decent cancel once in your lifetime, will pay for these forever - there are HUNDREDS listed at more than $100 in here!

Photos of many pages are added below here for the record on this thread, as clearly many have no idea of the huge detail that went into each massive edition of the Colleen Woolley"Australian PictorMarks" - 2 volume phenomenal catalogues -
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I have a few of these on sale right now for $200 for instance -

https://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=79595
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I am currently constructing a list of (more or less) current permanent pictorial postmarks. This list is available to anyone interested. Please contact me through my Facebook group "Permanent Pictorial Postmarks".
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G0rd0n wrote:I am currently constructing a list of (more or less) current permanent pictorial postmarks. This list is available to anyone interested. Please contact me through my Facebook group :Permanent Pictorial Postmarks".
Or a FAR better idea, list them here for posterity.

Also please READ and act on your Welcome email.

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Global Administrator wrote:
G0rd0n wrote:I am currently constructing a list of (more or less) current permanent pictorial postmarks. This list is available to anyone interested. Please contact me through my Facebook group :Permanent Pictorial Postmarks".
Or a FAR better idea, list them here for posterity.

Also please READ and act on your Welcome email.

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I have read the welcome email. Can you be more specific?
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G0rd0n

Welcome to Stampboards, we trust you enjoy your stay here.

Specifically, go to the thread link below:
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and introduce yourself. We are a friendly lot so we like to know a bit about you & what you collect. Sometimes other members send you stuff that you collect.

So do it now, do not pass go & do not collect $200. :D

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Global Administrator wrote:
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Ive just tried the link to the ozpictormarks www site and I get a 'server not found message'.....
It never ceases to astound me, that folks like Colleen and her partner, that take many THOUSANDS of hours (worth $50,000 of time) to put together a great work like this book, let websites expire all due to the $20 a year hosting renewal cost. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Happens endlessly with specialist pages and blogs of all kinds connected with philately. No idea why, but we see it all the time. Decades of work dropping off the web, all for the cost of a Pizza. :roll: :roll: :roll:

A great work, and what WAS there at Australian PictorMarks® a few months back is shown here -

https://web.archive.org/web/20160702044938/http://www.ozpictormarks.com/OzPictorMarks.html
I just tried that link and it worked fine for me.
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Re: Is there a list of Australia Permanent Pictorial Postmar

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Sorry, but what link to where? The domain name has been "parked" and is inactive.

There is nothing to see or order on it.

The website has not been updated since 2014. The archived website is just that - an archive.
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satsuma wrote:
I just tried that link and it worked fine for me.
Gee, a www.ARCHIVE.org (=wayback machine) link worked - how amazing. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Yes, well you may all heap on the criticism if you like, I admit I hadn't noticed it was an archived link, but

There is stuff still there. I clicked on the fake postmarks button and it opened and there were images and text still there.

Glen's image of the site is dated 2012 currently it is dated 2014.

I don't collect postmarks or pictomarks so it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
If you do, there may still be info worth retrieving. Up to you.
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BigSaint wrote:G0rd0n

Welcome to Stampboards, we trust you enjoy your stay here.

Specifically, go to the thread link below:
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10277&start=23800
and introduce yourself. We are a friendly lot so we like to know a bit about you & what you collect. Sometimes other members send you stuff that you collect.

So do it now, do not pass go & do not collect $200. :D

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G0rd0n wrote:
Global Administrator wrote:
G0rd0n wrote:I am currently constructing a list of (more or less) current permanent pictorial postmarks. This list is available to anyone interested. Please contact me through my Facebook group :Permanent Pictorial Postmarks".
Or a FAR better idea, list them here for posterity.

Also please READ and act on your Welcome email.

Thanks, Admin
I can post the list here if you want. It's 30 A4 pages. Are you sure that's what you want me to do? The list is always a work in progress and, as such, I would like as much input as possible from forum members. Omissions, inclusions and error corrections are not only welcome but sought.
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G0rd0n,

30 A4 pages is about 1,000 postmarks. I don't know that I would want to see page after page without any images. Somewhere on the Board recently I saw "a picture paints a thousand words" & that is what the Board is about, pictures.

I would prefer to see something like this where some information is given about the place & the postmark. This way the Google Bots have something to latch onto which promotes the Board. I googled something recently & the first 5 hits were to "Stampboards". If you did 3 each day you would be finished inside of 12 months. :)

Peterborough, South Australia:
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Australia Queen's Birthdaystamp fdc dated 21st April 1982 cancelled
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Oz Pictormarks the larger one (38mm) was introduced on 21st January 1981 (APM #9280) & replaced on by a smaller (32mm) postmark of the same design (APM #11207) on 21st April 1982.

Peterborough is in the mid north of South Australia, 220 kms north of Adelaide with a population of about 1,400. It was originally named Petersburg after the landowner, Peter Parker, who sold land to create the town. It was one of 69 places in South Australia renamed in 1917 due to anti-German sentiments during World War I.
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G0rd0n wrote:
BigSaint wrote:G0rd0n

Welcome to Stampboards, we trust you enjoy your stay here.

Specifically, go to the thread link below:
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10277&start=23800
and introduce yourself. We are a friendly lot so we like to know a bit about you & what you collect. Sometimes other members send you stuff that you collect.

So do it now, do not pass go & do not collect $200. :D

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I followed your instructions. I hope it came out OK.
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It did, thank you. :)
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